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Old 09-09-2022, 02:34 PM
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Dude you provided a parse of you root rotting a single mob solo. It's completely irrelevant to the topic of the thread. Your highest DOT does like 2k damage over 1.8 minutes. You will never hit 2k damage in a 4 person rapidly killing group, especially not if they have two enchanters with charmed mobs mowing stuff down. For the sake of easy math, that fight lasts 30 seconds right...so you do like 600 damage or so with your max DOT plus your mediocre pet DPS.

In that span of time the Mage has probably out DPSed you with just a single 1,024 damage nuke, not to mention the great DPS from its pet.

Not rocket science here man (although maybe it is for you, who knows). Move on.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:35 PM
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Dude you provided a parse of you root rotting a single mob solo. It's completely irrelevant to the topic of the thread. Your highest DOT does like 2k damage over 1.8 minutes. You will never hit 2k damage in a 4 person rapidly killing group, especially not if they have two enchanters with charmed mobs mowing stuff down. For the sake of easy math, that fight lasts 30 seconds right...so you do like 600 damage or so with your max DOT plus your mediocre pet DPS.

In that span of time the Mage has probably out DPSed you with just a single 1,024 damage nuke, not to mention the great DPS from its pet.

Not rocket science here man (although maybe it is for you, who knows). Move on.
I did not. You just haven't read anything, and are making stuff up lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-g8Ywibztg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XwiGKTuu2E

Where is the root rotting?
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:49 PM
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You just activated DSMs trap card
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:56 PM
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My data says DSM's data is shit

Checkmate

We are at an impasse

The post history is clear
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:56 PM
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I can't wait to get off work, fluffy and I are heading to KC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:57 PM
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I am excited too. It is a breath of fresh air to see somebody else willing to back up their point with data.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:58 PM
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If I want more dps in a group I would take the mage
If I wanted a useful class overall and didn't care about DPS I would take the shaman.
Hope this helps.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:59 PM
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I did not. You just haven't read anything, and are making stuff up lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-g8Ywibztg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XwiGKTuu2E

Where is the root rotting?
Lol so if the group is killing fast you maybe have a chance to get like 3 of your 600ish nukes off. In that time the Mage has out DPSed you with two nukes for over 2k damage, plus their pet doing more DPS than yours.

And again that's assuming you're literally sitting there doing only DPS. Which destroys your whole argument that a Shaman is more beneficial to the group because of all the non-DPS things it does. You can't do more DPS than the Mage regardless, but you can't even come close unless you're burning all your mana to chain nuke instead of any other spells that you claim are so much more valuable to, say, an Ench/Ench/Cleric group than just having a Mage's great DPS would be.

So basically, to summarize everything here, the overall argument ends up being "On a Shaman I can do close to the DPS a Mage can as long as I'm just chain nuking with my Ice Strike and not doing anything else."

Good job!
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Old 09-09-2022, 03:00 PM
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Can you provide the raw log data too?
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Old 09-09-2022, 03:03 PM
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I am excited
Careful DSM might get erect if you post too many lines of a log for him to napkin math and try to mental gymnastics it into somehow proving his point
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