almost 80 people in fear

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I refuse to speak more on the subject cuz it will just spark retarded flames on me and my guild from some butthurt dude looking to blow anything he can out of proportion. I personally find it not even worth it, but if you wish to continue the discussion hit me with a PM and I will unbegrudgingly respond.

Yeah, agreed. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Pikle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah as for Humerox, in all honesty they do mean the same thing. You can take certain definitions and skew them to how you want, but they do in general mean the same thing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda like civilian casualties...and...collateral damage.

Everything is perception. That's what diplomacy is all about. And not to flame ya or anything...but slow down on the FB/IB Draco pull controversy, man. It's very apparent you weren't there.

[Armin34]

Originally Posted by Pikle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GC is the next GREAT GUILD! JOIN WHILE YOU CAN!

Bro, I hear GC still can't break into PoF, and had IB to the rescue once. I heard you finally went into fear after someone else broke in, and logged within an hour because the "core" members had to log. I notice you guys raid planes, but plane of hate is being done by IV with one group. GC has a long way to go.

[Dabamf]

Originally Posted by Samuel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB enters zone again, quicker than FB because they evacced and we wiped. So at this point I'm sure a /who would show more IB than FB.

As I understand it, this is IBs claim to draco.

Now you can disagree that simply being in the zone is not claim to draco. But you can't say that IB has no argument here. They had 15+ at a time when no other guild did, and maintained that 15+.

You just confirmed the argument.

Again, you can disagree that being in the zone is claim, but that's a matter of opinion/interpretation. Don't we all consider 15 in the zone in hate to be claim for maestro?

I wasn't there, but taking the facts, it looks like all 3 guilds had a legit basis to believe draco belonged to them.

But, carry on, continue to slander IB because it's easier to blame someone else for repeated failures than it is to blame oneself. The top guild HAS to be cheating because if they're not, then I have to admit that they're better than me. That's basic psychology.

Originally Posted by Modus

I've been screenshotted twice intentionally training other people

This is all I see when Modus says anything about being ethical.

[Finawin]

Originally Posted by Armin34 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bro, I hear GC still can't break into PoF, and had IB to the rescue once. I heard you finally went into fear after someone else broke in, and logged within an hour because the "core" members had to log. I notice you guys raid planes, but plane of hate is being done by IV with one group. GC has a long way to go.

Lol you're so wrong it's cute, but please continue Mr. Anonymous player.

and as for the numbers anyone does anything with:

"No, you guys can't come for a shot at loot. Some noob on the forums might not think we're leet if you come and boost our numbers while we clear and let loot rot instead."

[Bentheb]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To KC and the Sunshine Band singing That's the Way I like it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWf1MdHv80Q

bored due to the sever being down so....

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...-arrested.html

[Ektar]

Originally Posted by Dabamf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, you can disagree that being in the zone is claim, but that's a matter of opinion/interpretation. Don't we all consider 15 in the zone in hate to be claim for maestro?

k well I gotta gently disagree with you here before someone jumps at this chance to destroy us. We do not consider the PoH zonein to be claim to maestro. Furthermore, pretty sure we don't consider merely being in PoF with 15 being claim to draco.

However, what you MEANT to say, I'm sure, is that being 15 at west wall is claim rather than less than 15 at north wall.



Once again, I wasn't there. Not commenting where people ACTUALLY were. I just had to correct this before someone went crazy balls on us.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Bentheb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bored due to the sever being down so....

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...-arrested.html

..has been arrested in Licking County,,

Shenanigans!!

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Dabamf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I understand it, this is IBs claim to draco.

Now you can disagree that simply being in the zone is not claim to draco. But you can't say that IB has no argument here. They had 15+ at a time when no other guild did, and maintained that 15+.

By this logic any guild could in theory try to KS a raid mob any time a 15 person raid has a single person go Linkdead or dies from an AOE. That's not right and it completely negates the half hour rule.

Also by this logic a previous argument that you guild had regarding the fact that a single group with a cleric and a chanter could take out Draco would never be allowed to happen. This is something that very recently you guys were arguing for.

So which is it? You need to have a single set of rules that apply at all times. You can't pick little bits of the rule set apart and paraphrase them any time it suits you.

[Samuel]

So which is it? You need to have a single set of rules that apply at all times. You can't pick little bits of the rule set apart and paraphrase them any time it suits you.

This.

IB keeps claiming they had a right to Draco because we went under 15 men for a couple minutes. Why wasn't fifteen minutes called on us as soon as your raid force showed up? Why isn't north wall an acceptable place to stage for Draco? FB was the first in the zone with 15 and clearing for Draco, why doesn't this give us the mob?