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Old 06-08-2010, 08:33 PM
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:45 PM
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Was Phallax in the right technically as far as rules go? I guess that depends on your interpertation of the rules. I would say that *technically* he was not actively in the camp so *technically* it was open.

Personally would I have handled the situation that way? No. I like Phallax. I've never had problems with him, he shows up to raids, and is quick to throw me STA and Tuna when I ask. Sure he can be mouthy on the boards, but I'm guilty of the same crime; so I can't fault the guy for that. That being said, I don't agree with the way he handled this situation. I'll be the first to admit that had I been in your place and he had tried to take the Ishva camp from me, we'd have had a serious problem.

My empathy for your situation ends there though. You're need to hop on the anti-DA band wagon by dragging a guild into a personal matter was uncalled for. If you wanted to inform the leadership of DA that Phallax was acting like a jack-off, there are far better ways to do that than ranting our guild.
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:50 PM
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Was Phallax in the right technically as far as rules go? I guess that depends on your interpertation of the rules. I would say that *technically* he was not actively in the camp so *technically* it was open.

Personally would I have handled the situation that way? No. I like Phallax. I've never had problems with him, he shows up to raids, and is quick to throw me STA and Tuna when I ask. Sure he can be mouthy on the boards, but I'm guilty of the same crime; so I can't fault the guy for that. That being said, I don't agree with the way he handled this situation. I'll be the first to admit that had I been in your place and he had tried to take the Ishva camp from me, we'd have had a serious problem.

My empathy for your situation ends there though. You're need to hop on the anti-DA band wagon by dragging a guild into a personal matter was uncalled for. If you wanted to inform the leadership of DA that Phallax was acting like a jack-off, there are far better ways to do that than ranting our guild.
There was no situation untill Cazic created it. How can you "claim" a camp if you are not present in it? And elsewhere exping/PLing/farming in the zone? You cant.

As I stated in his awesome SS and here, I gave him plenty of time to check the camp and stop me from claiming it. I sat there for a good 15 minutes before there was ANY sign of him anywhere near Ishva room.

Thatd be like me being in guk, clear frenzy, then go sit at lord for 25 mins untill frenzy repops, come back to some enc/necro prepping to take frenzy. The camp is now the enc/necro's because I left the camp. 36 hours or not you must be present in the camp.
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:53 PM
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:57 PM
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:58 PM
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there is no situation lol, i gave him the camp because yes he was following the rules i never said he wasnt....... i just wanted to show the community what kinda people you guys are : ) good day!
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:58 PM
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There was no situation untill Cazic created it. How can you "claim" a camp if you are not present in it? And elsewhere exping/PLing/farming in the zone? You cant.

As I stated in his awesome SS and here, I gave him plenty of time to check the camp and stop me from claiming it. I sat there for a good 15 minutes before there was ANY sign of him anywhere near Ishva room.

Thatd be like me being in guk, clear frenzy, then go sit at lord for 25 mins untill frenzy repops, come back to some enc/necro prepping to take frenzy. The camp is now the enc/necro's because I left the camp. 36 hours or not you must be present in the camp.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that you did anything wrong... I'm just saying that I would have handled the situation differently. I think comparing a 36 hour camp to a 28 minute camp is a poor example. I don't know the situation aside from what I read in the screenshot so I'm not sure what he was doing or where he was - but I wouldnt have been clearing the camp if I knew the mob wasn't due either... although I would have at least been in the camp.

I wasn't saying that you were acting like a jack-off, I was simply stating that if he felt you were, he should have contacted our officers as opposed to ranting an entire guild for the actions of an individual.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:09 PM
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Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that you did anything wrong... I'm just saying that I would have handled the situation differently. I think comparing a 36 hour camp to a 28 minute camp is a poor example. I don't know the situation aside from what I read in the screenshot so I'm not sure what he was doing or where he was - but I wouldnt have been clearing the camp if I knew the mob wasn't due either... although I would have at least been in the camp.

I wasn't saying that you were acting like a jack-off, I was simply stating that if he felt you were, he should have contacted our officers as opposed to ranting an entire guild for the actions of an individual.
true true fair enough, the frenzy camp is the best scenario I could come up with.

The situation is all in the SS text he posted, it lasted all of 3 minutes. He didnt even stick around to try and argue me further there. He left as soon as he saw me down there. And didnt /tell me untill he had already walked away.

IMO I think he knew he was in the wrong and lost the camp and just wanted some juice to post on the boards.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:10 PM
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there is no situation lol, i gave him the camp because yes he was following the rules i never said he wasnt....... i just wanted to show the community what kinda people you guys are : ) good day!
Damn, he was doing something according to the rules.... Quick I must tell everyone what a jerk he is...
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:11 PM
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there is no situation lol, i gave him the camp because yes he was following the rules i never said he wasnt....... i just wanted to show the community what kinda people you guys are : ) good day!
Really? This is what I'm talking about. You're taking the actions of one person and using it as evidence to judge an entire group... pretty sure there are a number of real life examples that can show the flaw in your logic there.

As far as I'm concerned you can fuck right off - I'm included in the kind of people DA is, and I'd be willing to wager that I have a far better reputation than you on this server. I challenge you to find one person who has a legit qualm with me here for something I've done to them. Sure, everyone may not agree with my posts or opinions on here - but my in game conduct, along with the majority of DA, is nothing short of cordial.

Plus - if I remember right, Phallax is still an applicant... so you're judging a guild based off a person who is a trial member. Good job guy.
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