Viability of Non Oger Troll SK discussion and how to equip them

[Grozmok]

I'm playing a Troll SK, it's painful but I like the way Trolls are presented in EQ and I happen to enjoy playing villains, so I'm going to stick it out.

I'm sure that once Velious is out and the exp tables are adjusted, there will be a bunch of fair weather Johnson SKs out there, but such is life.

[Gamkek]

Analogy time!

"Waiter, I'm torn between the cheese n' mushroom sirloin and the steak and seafood meals. What do you recommend?"

"Well sir, I really think you're just trying to decide what is best. You should eat what you want. And if your friends here don't approve of your choice in food, you should eat here alone or you should find new friends."

It's a good thing you don't work for tips, Lishrac

This is a pretty awful analogy. It's a good thing you're not a professional analogy-maker, or else you'd probably have a tough time finding work.

It's a waiters job to pander to customers, kiss ass and take orders. They're paid specifically for this reason.

Whereas Lishrac is not on anyone's payroll here and is just presenting his opinion on the topic, probably not giving two shits whether OP appreciates it or not.

These two things are not analogous!

Anyway, as for OP's question, I agree that race doesn't play a whole lot into the viability of any class. As an SK, Low STR/STA races are going to have a bit of a hard time at low levels because their stat difference will be more pronounced. But by the time you get to level 30 it will hardly make a difference. Honestly, your biggest problem early on is going to be carrying capacity - you won't have all the STR Ogres and Trolls have, so you won't be able to loot up as much before having to hit the vendor/bank.

[Filthed]

noone mentioned slam? isnt that the obv advantage?

[Grozmok]

^

Good point, slam is a nice bonus for the large races.

[Eldaran]

I don't always play an SK, but when I do... it's a fuggin Troll with green eyes. Troll hp regen, Slam, Big starting Sta and Str in the beginning all make your life that much easier.

[Broot]

Honestly, play whatever race sounds coolest in your head. ANY race of SK will be fantastic in groups because they have snap agro, good armor and good hit points. I felt like Troll was the coolest SK ever so I rolled it and love it. The 28% more exp required is definitely noticeable...but remember, the level cap will NEVER increase, and you should just have fun as you go along without trying to rush (especially if you don't plan on raiding).

If you want to solo, Troll and Iksar are by and far superior because of the health regen. It will decrease your downtime massively in combination with lifetap spamming. It can save you in a pinch while FD'ed, since you get regen while faking it.

Just make sure you have enough STR to carry your gear, and put the rest in STA. INT is completely unnecessary for anything non-ogre non-troll (arguably any SK at all)

[Kevlar]

I had a human SK on live and never had a problem. Was welcome in a lot of lighty towns as well as some evil ones. Granted things got a little better with the slam AA, but it wasn't THAT bad switching weapons with hot keys to bash every now and again.

[Noselacri]

Non-fatty SKs are fine, they just have a slight stat disadvantage. You'll be able to max your stamina in the end, which is all that truly matters for tanking, but ogre stun immunity is pretty sweet for a casting tank. Not critical, though.

1h weapons are alright. They have ratios that are almost comparable to 2h weapons and you can use a shield. If I'm tanking something, I'd appreciate 30AC 100HP quite a bit more than some extra DPS, especially on a class that could hold aggro without attacking at all if you wanted (I did that back in the day when tanking Vindi and such).

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by godbox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love my troll sk's I always played troll Sk's but the grind is getting too much for me as an adult and Im only mid 20's. I remember back on EQ live that DE SKs were super popular as well as erudites I THINK for soloing since obviously troll oger win at late game tanking when there massive sta is the winning.

Anyway I am thinking of rerolling my troll into a DE or eru for purposes of keeping up with the group I play with.
I dont ever expect I will play end game raid type stuff I expect more to play as small groups and solo farm mostly.
Lookin for thoughts or opinions on viability / benefits of small race SK's as soloers/group tanks. Also thought since we have this forum now would be a good place to start keeping some brand newbian info such as this.

p.s. and most importantly has anyone played both big and small Sk's that can comment on noticability of the 40 vs 68% exp penalty (seems noticable to me).

Make two inventory slots, one empty, one weapon/sheild bag, position the window for that nexto two more slots one for your primary and one for your offhand, put bash right next that, when you feel the need to bash, put 2h in empty slot, open bag, break out 1hs and sheild, if already using 1hs dualwield, swaping just the sheild is even easier. If your too lazy to do this - reroll a rogue, ranger, or some other moderately usefull dps class that doesnt need to do anything but stand nexto the appropriate mob with autoattack on.

[Grahm]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Make two inventory slots, one empty, one weapon/sheild bag, position the window for that nexto two more slots one for your primary and one for your offhand, put bash right next that, when you feel the need to bash, put 2h in empty slot, open bag, break out 1hs and sheild, if already using 1hs dualwield, swaping just the sheild is even easier. If your too lazy to do this - reroll a rogue, ranger, or some other moderately usefull dps class that doesnt need to do anything but stand nexto the appropriate mob with autoattack on.

ITT shadowknights can duel wield.