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View Poll Results: Why don't you play on the red server?
I am already established on blue and don't want to start again. 17 11.49%
I dont like everquest pvp. 44 29.73%
I dont like the people or enviroment or the way I am treated on the server. 36 24.32%
I do play on red on my main character. 6 4.05%
I do play an alt ocassionally on red. 5 3.38%
I never played pvp before and it can be hard to learn. 2 1.35%
I always played blue before so thats why I play it now. 5 3.38%
I like classic and the pvp server isnt clasic enough or I dislike the ruleset. 7 4.73%
I would play there but it has a low population compaired to blue. 21 14.19%
Something else much different from these options. (Please post below) 5 3.38%
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:27 AM
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Add option : PvP was an afterthought of the developers at best.

The game wasn't made with PvP in mind. It's a PvE game that had certain elements of PvP imposed after the fact. As much as I loved playing on Rallos back in the day, looking at eq PvP now its laughable.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:35 AM
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Imo, the only good PvP games are designed without all the devs and players being 100% focused on it.

LoL? Warcraft arenas/BGs? Lame

Eve, shadowbane, etc? Awesome.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:00 AM
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The populatio on red is just abysmal. I tried...I REALLY wanted to enjoy my time there. But it's a ghost town, and if I really wanted to play EQ completely alone I'd just start my own emulator. PvP on live was a blast, but mostly becuase there was a server full of other people to actually PvP with right from the first night.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Add option : PvP was an afterthought of the developers at best.

The game wasn't made with PvP in mind. It's a PvE game that had certain elements of PvP imposed after the fact. As much as I loved playing on Rallos back in the day, looking at eq PvP now its laughable.
That's not really needed though, as the poll is about peoples opinions.Your comment is an established fact about the original game's development - and likely the primary reason "I don't like EQ pvp" is the leading poll result.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:51 AM
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My disdain of PVP, at all, is damn near religious.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:05 PM
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I wanted to click a couple options but...

I voted that I do not like EverQuest PvP. Let's face it... it's crap and always has been. The classes are just too imbalanced at this point in EQ's timeline for PvP to truly be about player skill vs skill.

Another reason is the "type of player" drawn to this incarnation of red. There's no fun in being curbstomped because you like to play your normal class, and it sucks in low-level PvP, and then having your killer act like it was a matter of skill, experience and sagacity. Like a teenage punk that shoves an old man and claims to have "kicked his ass". Maybe it's possible that post L20 this is less of an issue and that EQ red is like the fans say: "Solve your own problems! Oh people end up being good guys and reputation keeps people in check". I doubt it. I won't play alongside griefers.

And of course, with my and my wife's playstyle (slow as hell), I'd rather not reaccrue the plat it would take for me to get all the goodies I have on blue.

Speaking for me and me alone, the "recruitment drives" of red players in blue forums also turned me off for good. It's a gut reaction, but seeing folks in desperation to save a server means I just don't want to get into it at all.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Imo, the only good PvP games are designed without all the devs and players being 100% focused on it.

LoL? Warcraft arenas/BGs? Lame

Eve, shadowbane, etc? Awesome.
Actually, the only PvP I ever truly enjoyed was Wintergrasp in WoW. That was a fun event to me. Win, lose... didn't matter. I always had fun. I also loved how "pick up" it was.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:14 PM
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I've thought about playing on red, but the FFA ruleset with a small population seems problematic.

Also, is red up to kunark yet? My main motivation for blue would be to play where 50 is the cap because I've never experienced that.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:51 PM
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I have no interest in killing other players or being killed by them.

The players, the vocal ones at least, act like absolute assholes, and I have no tolerance or patience for that. (And their posts tend to read like a 10-year old mentally retarded foreigner wrote them.)
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:55 PM
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(And their posts tend to read like a 10-year old mentally retarded foreigner wrote them.)
This is really my problem with Red99, too.

It's a literacy thing. Add it to the poll, please.
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