Velious99UI - Green Server UI - Feedback/Bugs/Discussion

[deezy]

Originally Posted by semioldguy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't particularly like the Velious UI either, but making it look like crap is on you. With only a few minutes I made mine look and feel much closer to what I feel is classic.
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this is the ui we are replicating

[semioldguy]

Originally Posted by deezy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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this is the ui we are replicating

I was replying to Xer0 (who put in next to zero effort modifying his ui). That one looks great, though personally I would viewport it as I don't like my view hiding behind my windows.

[Zekayy]

People have said they dont like the ui the way it is now, and while some agree and some dont. I want to respectfully ask why we cant get close to the stone ui as possible I get it its nearly impossible due to the titanium client but if people can get it basically working on p99 through here http://p99.yourfirefly.com/downloads/classic1.3.jpg couldnt you just use this one and work on the code to get it working on p99?? just a thought I had everyone or maybe this https://www.eqinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=4726.

[Wenai]

Originally Posted by Zekayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People have said they dont like the ui the way it is now, and while some agree and some dont. I want to respectfully ask why we cant get close to the stone ui as possible I get it its nearly impossible due to the titanium client but if people can get it basically working on p99 through here http://p99.yourfirefly.com/downloads/classic1.3.jpg couldnt you just use this one and work on the code to get it working on p99?? just a thought I had everyone or maybe this https://www.eqinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=4726.

Here is the primary problem using that Stone UI.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...5&postcount=26

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is the primary problem using that Stone UI.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...5&postcount=26

I saw your post and this is a problem but even you said it could be fixed however thats not what I asked I asked if we could take the stone ui/classic ui that people have gotten 100% working on p99 before we were forced to use this ui. http://p99.yourfirefly.com/downloads/classic1.3.jpg I know cause I used to use this ui on p99 before I switched to duxa now also what I asked was couldnt you use just use that code from that ui and tweak it to how you all want? theres nothing wrong with this ui it works on p99 why fix something that isnt broke? and before anyone says but zekay you sound like you dont care about the current ui I do I have tweaked it to my own liking. also if you dont like that one you could always tweak the code with this one https://www.eqinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=4726

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Zekayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I saw your post and this is a problem but even you said it could be fixed however thats not what I asked I asked if we could take the stone ui/classic ui that people have gotten 100% working on p99 before we were forced to use this ui. http://p99.yourfirefly.com/downloads/classic1.3.jpg I know cause I used to use this ui on p99 before I switched to duxa now also what I asked was couldnt you use just use that code from that ui and tweak it to how you all want? theres nothing wrong with this ui it works on p99 why fix something that isnt broke? and before anyone says but zekay you sound like you dont care about the current ui I do I have tweaked it to my own liking. also if you dont like that one you could always tweak the code with this one https://www.eqinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=4726

I can't speak at all for the UI team or R&N, but I think the core issue is ... Green = classic! Those UIs aren't as close to classic as the current Green UI is.

But look, actual classic had two UI modes right, stone and transparent? The staff was going to make us use just their ghetto transparent version. Then the volunteers stepped up, and we got a much more accurate/classic UI.

All that is awesome, but even so it doesn't mean it's the end. Maybe R&N will decide they want Green players to have an option, and they'll authorize the building of an alternate "stone" UI, then let people /loaduiskin either one.

Or maybe they won't. But if you want to convince R&N, I would imagine the best way to get that ball rolling would be to find ways to make whatever UI you think would be perfect for green more classic (until it's as classic as possible).

[loramin]

For anyone who cares about accessibility, I finished my "color audit", and as a bonus we now have a wiki page with the color palette of all text in the UI (not sure how that's useful, but ... /shrug).

http://wiki.project1999.com/UI_Color_Accessibility for all the pretty colors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I bolded all the potential problems. The inventory window has a blue and a red with somewhat poor contrast, and the tracking window has a red and a green that have somewhat poor contrast. All those colors aren't terrible though: with large enough text they could qualify for AA status. Also, even though they don't look great against either black or white, they're somewhat readable against both, so these colors might be best when the background will be very inconsistent.

Other than those four, every color seems to have really great (AAA accessible) contrast, assuming it's being paired with the appropriate (white/black) background. And of course, with transparent backgrounds that can't be assumed, but ... that's classic.

I'll try and suggest better colors for those four tomorrow, but first I want to see if I can figure out what their background color is (if it's not black or white they might already be AAA, relative to it).

[Hibbs]

UI kicks me right in the nostalgia bawls. Love it!

[soronil]

I think most people complaining about the UI are complaining about 2 major issues. The first is ignorance, they don't understand this IS a classic ui, and that "velious" UI is kind of a misnomer that can more accurately be described as "classic" ui (in the titanium timeframe, the difference is relatively small)
The second, and main issue: The UI is a bit small on modern resolutions.
Exactly what resolution / screen size are you guys designing for? I would think that a 1920x1080 22" monitor would be a "basic" thing to design around. Yes some people have 4k monitors, but many don't. But not many people are playing at less than 1080, and asking everyone to chane their monitor resolution is not an acceptable solution (many people play in windowed mode...)

When you compare this image that you say you are trying to replicate
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To the angry man's image:
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You can see the difference right away. The 1999 monitor was NOT four inches wide. That means the UI was MUCH LARGER relative to screen size. Try this:
full screen (f10) and zoom(ctrl =) your browser such that the 1999 pic takes up most of your screen. See how much better that looks? If the angry man's ui had anywhere close to that scale it would be much more readable even with transparent black background.

I know that UI scaling is not possible, but you guys need to either :
A. Increase the scale on the ONLY version by about 25%, or
B. release 2-3 versions of the ui: Scaled & 100%, 125%, 150%, etc. (even up to 200% for a closer to "Actually classic" experience)
Options for implementing B:
1. Make the users copy/paste the appropriate file
2. allow these 3 uis to be switched between with the in game interface / loadskin (/loadskin velious150). The green server then allows only these few interfaces.

[Deathrydar]

Here's my feedback: UI looks fantastic. I really appreciate you guys getting this as classic as possible on your own time and for no extra money.