Which race is better for Paladin: Dwarf or Half Elf?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saying things like “iksars are objectively the worst min/max shaman race” is not doing any service to the P99 community.

They make the best monks, the best necros, and arguably the best shamans. Your guide is simply a summation of your opinions about different scenarios.

Please stop spreading false information, the community is better off without it.

I am doing a service to the P99 community for those who want the objective facts about Shamans. You want to suppress those objective facts for unknown reasons.

Iksars are the best Necros and Monks because the "no plate" restriction doesn't affect them at all. Necros and Monks also cannot be Trolls/Ogres to begin with. Allowing Monks and Necromancers to be Iksar is akin to allowing them to be Trolls. Everybody would be a Troll Necromancer or Troll Monk if they could.

Warriors, Shadowknights, and Shamans are all plate classes, and Iksar is not the min/max choice for any of those classes. This is because all of those classes can also be Trolls/Ogres.

People can check the guide in my signature for objective information about Shaman races. You cannot simply claim everything is an opinion, to try and make your opinion appear equal. I can back up my points with math and videos. You can't.

Please stop posting false information about Shamans in a Paladin thread.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksars are the best raiding shaman.

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

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It's in the guide which I wrote three years ago too! What is your point? You are missing the caveat that min/maxing for raiding is not the optimal choice for the majority of Shaman players.

This is your worst troll yet, because I can prove I said this three years ago.

Every race can be considered the best at something. My guide shows the scenario in which each race can be considered the best for a Shaman. Min/maxing is figuring out which race gives you the most benefit over the most hours of play for the majority of players at max level. This includes the knowledge that you will always sacrifice something when picking one race over another. If you want to be better in a very specific scenario, you don't have to pick the min/max choice. It is rare that people build a Shaman to exclusively raid, which is why it isn't the min/max choice.

Please stop posting off topic nonsense.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksars are the best raiding shaman.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am doing a service to the P99 community for those who want the objective facts about Shamans. You want to suppress those objective facts for unknown reasons.

Iksars are the best Necros and Monks because the "no plate" restriction doesn't affect them at all. Necros and Monks also cannot be Trolls/Ogres to begin with. Allowing Monks and Necromancers to be Iksar is akin to allowing them to be Trolls. Everybody would be a Troll Necromancer or Troll Monk if they could.

Warriors, Shadowknights, and Shamans are all plate classes, and Iksar is not the min/max choice for any of those classes. This is because all of those classes can also be Trolls/Ogres.

People can check the guide in my signature for objective information about Shaman races. You cannot simply claim everything is an opinion, to try and make your opinion appear equal. I can back up my points with math and videos. You can't.

Please stop posting false information about Shamans in a Paladin thread.

Is anyone else reading this.

Bringing troll necros and troll monks into the equation.

Velious has plate for all classes, you’re not making any valid points here. Just creating more confusion talking about “troll monks” and plate, 2 things which don’t exist for a monk.

The only troll here is the troll you have decided to be today.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is anyone else reading this.

Bringing troll necros and troll monks into the equation.

Velious has plate for all classes, you’re not making any valid points here. Just creating more confusion talking about “troll monks” and plate, 2 things which don’t exist for a monk.

The only troll here is the troll you have decided to be today.

I am using Trolls as an example, because they also have racial regeneration. I didn't say that Trolls could be Necromancers or Monks. There is nothing confusing about what I said.

Don't confuse players by claiming Iksar Monks and Iksar Necromancers are missing any significant plate items. You said:

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Velious has plate for all classes

and

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and plate, 2 things which don’t exist for a monk

You are contradicting yourself in the same post by saying Velious has plate for all classes, and saying monks have no plate.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here. You are simply posting off topic nonsense, again.

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[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am using Trolls as an example, because they also have racial regeneration. I didn't say that Trolls could be Necromancers or Monks. There is nothing confusing about what I said.

Don't confuse players by claiming Iksar Monks and Iksar Necromancers are missing any significant plate items. You said:



and



You are contradicting yourself in the same post by saying Velious has plate for all classes, and saying monks have no plate.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here. You are simply posting off topic nonsense, again.

I literally cannot keep up with your stealth edits. You must have did it 3 or 4 times already in this one post alone.

Again, please stop. You’re just confusing people even more. And stop constantly editing stuff. It really kills whatever credibility you might have left, which is already little to none.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I literally cannot keep up with your stealth edits. You must have did it 3 or 4 times already in this one post alone.

Again, please stop. You’re just confusing people even more. And stop constantly editing stuff. It really kills whatever credibility you might have left, which is already little to none.

I edit my posts because I want to be as clear as possible, since posters like yourself take every opportunity to misread what I said. If you weren't purposely being hostile and twisting peoples words, I wouldn't need to.

You can't even write a sensible sentence, because you claim that Velious has plate for all classes, while simultaneously saying Monks have no plate.

Again, please stop posting incorrect information about Shamans (and now plate armor) in a thread about Paladins.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I edit my posts because I want to be as clear as possible, since posters like yourself take every opportunity to misread what I said. If you weren't purposely being hostile and twisting peoples words, I wouldn't need to.

You can't even write a sensible sentence, because you claim that Velious has plate for all classes, while simultaneously saying Monks have no plate.

Again, please stop posting incorrect information about Shamans and plate armor in a thread about Paladins.

I meant velious has plate for all races. But unlike you, I don’t edit my posts a million times. People understood what it meant.

You on the other hand, continue to spread lies saying Iksars are objectively the worst min/max race. This simply is not true.

I can no longer debate with a lie spreader and stealth editor. Nobody knows what your intentions are when you change the contents of your post every 2 minutes.