What drug is your favorite?

[Daldolma]

"IMO "the state" is completely superfluous to the whole 'system'. The state offers its citizens nothing that a free market system cant better and for a lower cost."

Not a very well thought-out point of view. Is a free market system going to provide public schooling? How about welfare? Foreign defense? Laws? Law enforcement? Public roads? Public transportation? Health care?

You want to see why a free market system doesn't work? Look outside. If it weren't for the state, the market economy of the most wealthy, most powerful nation in the world would have crumbled overnight. The derivatives market went from next to nothing in 2001 to over $60 trillion by 2008. Do you understand how insanely irresponsible that is? $60 trillion is like the entire world's annual GDP. The money didn't exist. The whole market was being fueled by what was essentially a Ponzi scheme. That's what you get with a free market. Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, Bernie Madoff -- it's all the same. They're trading money they don't have. It was always only a matter of time before it came crashing down, but hey: everyone got rich.

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not a very well thought-out point of view. Is a free market system going to provide public schooling? How about welfare? Foreign defense? Laws? Law enforcement? Public roads? Public transportation? Health care?

I beg to differ, Anarcho-Capitalism is a very well though out point of view. All the things youve listed here can be considered economic goods. If the state were to no longer off public schools, welfare, foreign defense, law enforcement, public roads/transportation, or health care, I can guarantee that some private businesses would offer them. I can say this with certainty because there is money to be made off of each and everyone of these services. One might argue that the services offered privately would be shotty in comparison to what the state currently offers. This is a valid argument, but consider the nature of capitalism; you want to offer the very best product at the absolute lowest price possible. Competition will drive the price down, while simultaneously driving quality up.

If you are truly interested in this line of thinking I'd recommend a book by Dr. Phillip D Friedman, called The Machinery of Freedom. Its a direct cost/benefit of a state vs no state society. And like all good anarcho-capitalist literature its available free on-line! The biggest concern most people show when discussing an anarcho-capitalist society is how will laws and law enforcement be handled. People want to feel protected, and dont mind sacrificing a few freedoms if it means guaranteeing this. This is a valid concern, but instead of diving into a 10 page dissertation of laws and law enforcement on the free market, ill direct you to this link, which has done all the work for me.

http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libert...hapter_29.html

[nalkin]

ITT: Someone with the correct argument loses the debate.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last one of the night for me:

If drugs are so great, why don't you tell your boss about all the drugs you do. Or better yet, the cops. Why don't you tell them about how cool you are and how you are superhuman now that you take drugs? How your grades are so great, and you make so much money and have successful lives. Why don't you tell them? I really want an answer on this.

You have gotta be fuckin retarded

[SlankyLanky]

bison just ripped this thread a new asshole.

[Rahnza]

Originally Posted by Itchybottom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They probably can't afford coke.

Except coke is a dirty, unhealthy, addictive drug; whereas mdma is (if you don't get shitty product) cleaner, non-addictive, and way more fun.

Cocaine is for frat parties and blacks.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by M.Bison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I beg to differ, Anarcho-Capitalism is a very well though out point of view. All the things youve listed here can be considered economic goods. If the state were to no longer off public schools, welfare, foreign defense, law enforcement, public roads/transportation, or health care, I can guarantee that some private businesses would offer them. I can say this with certainty because there is money to be made off of each and everyone of these services. One might argue that the services offered privately would be shotty in comparison to what the state currently offers. This is a valid argument, but consider the nature of capitalism; you want to offer the very best product at the absolute lowest price possible. Competition will drive the price down, while simultaneously driving quality up.

If you are truly interested in this line of thinking I'd recommend a book by Dr. Phillip D Friedman, called The Machinery of Freedom. Its a direct cost/benefit of a state vs no state society. And like all good anarcho-capitalist literature its available free on-line! The biggest concern most people show when discussing an anarcho-capitalist society is how will laws and law enforcement be handled. People want to feel protected, and dont mind sacrificing a few freedoms if it means guaranteeing this. This is a valid concern, but instead of diving into a 10 page dissertation of laws and law enforcement on the free market, ill direct you to this link, which has done all the work for me.

http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libert...hapter_29.html

You remind me of that college dude in the bar scene in "Good Will Hunting". The one that regurgitates crap that he read in a book or parrots the same exact thing that his professor told him in class. Do you have original thought....ever!

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by M.Bison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, can we say "grasping at straws?" Im guessing this is supposed to show us that our personal choices are wrong in the eyes of society? Your arguments have degraded into feeble attempts to push morality onto us now. Weak mind is weak.

Feeble attempts at morality? I just wanted and answer to the question. If anything I was wanting to show the "illegality" of the thing, not the morality. Not as smart as you think you are huh? LMAO.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by M.Bison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which one is it? Am i "a dime a dozen" or are "most everyone not like me."

First of all, I view any consolidation of power as a bad thing. IMO "the state" is completely superfluous to the whole 'system'. The state offers its citizens nothing that a free market system cant better and for a lower cost. The only thing 'the state' offers is a pre-existing hierarchy of power, making it that much easier for corrupt leaders to fuck things up. The hardest part of ruining a society is gathering and consolidating power, and the current system has done all that leg work for them!

Second, I have yet to ever go on anything that could be classified as 'welfare.' That includes unemployment, and food stamps. I actually find it funny that when you detect any inclination of disdain for current govt. you immediately resort to the "That evil govt you hate takes care of you, you freeloader!" argument. Its getting a little old IMO.

Finally, I personally love corporations, they epitomize everything good about capitalism.

I find your arguments seriously lacking substance. Which is surprising, considering they are coming from someone who claims to have a political science degree.

You are one of those tinfoil hat people aren't you?

[karsten]

A few thoughts from your friendly neighborhood PALadin:

1. Anarchocapitalism is sorta internet trendy -- clearly one needs to be bright and think outside the bun to be a follower of it, but ehhhhh (this coming from a very proud libertarian)

2. Japan is owning most of you in this thread by using very few words. True internet JUDO

3. Man I have TWO degrees in Political Science. Just thought I'd mention that for supreme internet bragging rights.

Love,
Karsten