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Old 12-05-2020, 07:19 PM
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Paradox's major titles... Europa Universalis III/IV, Hearts of Iron II-IV, Victoria II, Stellaris, Crusader Kings II. Between all these titles my playtime probably rivals MMO's.

Honorable mention for Space Engineers and Mount & Blade.
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which one is the best paradox? Hearts of L-Ron didn't do it for me. but I fancy myself a master organizer
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Old 12-05-2020, 07:33 PM
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goop dost.

which one is the best paradox? Hearts of L-Ron didn't do it for me. but I fancy myself a master organizer
They're all the very similar quality really, characterized by elaborate, complex mechanics. HoI III/IV's downfall is the bad AI and clunky combat, so if that's what you didn't like you might like other pdox. But if you didn't like the pacing, complexity, systems or historical aspects you may not like other titles.

Victoria II is a classic. Older and not as shiny as some of the newer titles but it's a political and economic simulator foremost. You start in 1838 (coronation of Queen Victoria) and guide a country though the end of absolutism, through the Springtime of Nations and industrial revolution, through WWI to the rise of socialism and fascism. You get to manage the level of woke your populace has and depending on how woke they are you get certain policies like laissez faire, state capitalism, planned economy, etc. So you can pit your dream fascist state against all the limp dicked democracies.

Plus you get to brutalize Africa and exploit its resources, but that can be said for all paradox titles.

CK2 is good if you're into incest and game of thrones type intrigues, EU4 is addictive, stellaris if you're into space.
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Old 12-05-2020, 07:36 PM
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it was the combat. I will try Victoria 2 sounds dope.
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Old 12-05-2020, 08:15 PM
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been looking at some old games

what do you guys recommend:

https://www.gog.com/game/arcanum_of_...magick_obscura

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https://www.gog.com/game/planescape_...hanced_edition
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Old 12-05-2020, 08:54 PM
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Arcanum.

The game is interesting for its take on a fantasy world at the start of an industrial revolution. Fantasy races are mixing in society, racism and intolerance. For example, if you play a magic heavy build they put you at the back of the train because it might cause the engine to explode. Some tech heavy builds are not welcome in high magic places. It was one of Troika Games but launched with a lot of bugs. The community has fixed most of it. Numerous character builds. Rated #4 CRPG by the Codex.

Troika - Arcanum, Temple of Elemental Evil and Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines.

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Planescape.

90's CRPGs. Black Isle Studio. Story heavy, rated as "story fag" level on the RPGCodex. Interesting world. Rated #1 CRPG by the Codex.

Black Isle - Fallout 1 & 2, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape: Torment

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Both still look good. Classic computer games. Computer interface. Before the Xbox was launched. No mass market success or appeal.
There were no roadside billboards for either game. Computers were always niche.
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:17 PM
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Arcanum.

The game is interesting for its take on a fantasy world at the start of an industrial revolution. Fantasy races are mixing in society, racism and intolerance. For example, if you play a magic heavy build they put you at the back of the train because it might cause the engine to explode. Some tech heavy builds are not welcome in high magic places. It was one of Troika Games but launched with a lot of bugs. The community has fixed most of it. Numerous character builds. Rated #4 CRPG by the Codex.

Note: Troika - Arcanum, Temple of Elemental Evil and Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines.

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Planescape.

90's CRPGs. Black Isle Studio. Story heavy, rated as "story fag" level on the RPGCodex. Interesting world. Rated #1 CRPG by the Codex.

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Both still look good. Classic computer games. Computer interface. Before the Xbox was launched. No mass market success or appeal.
There were no roadside billboards for either game. Computers were always niche.
they both look super fun but like you said planescape is more of a story based game

think I will buy them both =)
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Old 12-06-2020, 01:39 AM
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they both look super fun but like you said planescape is more of a story based game

think I will buy them both =)
Planescape: Torment is one of my favorites. Good storyline, gameplay still holds up to this day. In fact, it's been a few years so I'm due for a replay.

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Old 12-06-2020, 02:53 AM
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While not at the top of the list of favorites, one standout yet to be mentioned is Nox, specifically the online multiplayer mode. It was a good option whenever the EQ servers were down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nox_(video_game)

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The development of the game started in 1995 as a personal project of Michael Booth,[5] the future technical director and lead gameplay designer of the game. An avid gamer, Booth began programming his own games on Apple II and Commodore VIC-20 computers while still at school, and started working on Nox "in a spare bedroom of [his] house" in college. To help produce the game, he co-founded Hyperion Technologies, a company that also worked on driving simulators. After Booth showed a demo of Nox to John Hight, an executive producer of Westwood Studios, at the 1997 Game Developers Conference, Westwood decided to acquire it and moved the development team to California.[9]

Booth originally envisioned the game as an "updated version of Atari's Gauntlet", focusing on real-time magical combat in the vein of Magic: The Gathering and Mortal Kombat.[3] Inspired by the "epic wizard battles" described in fantasy literature, Booth wanted to create a "multiplayer wizard battle game"[5] and decided to set it in a medieval fantasy setting.[3] It wasn't until Westwood started working on the game that it began to lean towards the RPG genre and two more classes (warrior and conjurer) and a single-player campaign were added.[5]

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The multiplayer modes were inspired by the online first-person shooters, such as Quake and Unreal, both of which the development team played extensively.[3]
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:31 PM
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While not at the top of the list of favorites, one standout yet to be mentioned is Nox, specifically the online multiplayer mode. It was a good option whenever the EQ servers were down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nox_(video_game)
Looks very interesting. A bit like a diablo/ultima clone

think I will try it out. Its only 5.99 on GOG!
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Old 12-05-2020, 10:10 PM
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Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar

A game released awhile back but was made with an old engine. If you change a few things in the UI it reminds me of classic EQ, both are CRPG's. For sale at the usual places.

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