Forced Rotation Isn't Classic

[Penoy]

Originally Posted by Zexa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We go by the rotation 100% Penoy.

What's wrong?

The thread is named Forced Rotation Isn't Classic

[Zexa]

Originally Posted by Penoy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thread is named Forced Rotation Isn't Classic

And from that you extracted "Forced Rotation Isn't Classic So We Aren't Going to Follow It"

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As a guild we're trying to play by the rules no matter how much we dislike them. We just dislike them even more when the competition can't even kill the content we share, but get rights to it anyways.

Vox should be sitting in her lair surrounded by about 200 Transcendence corpses right now, waiting for us to come loot her.

[cassaruby]

This is why we can't have nice things.

If we merge raiding guilds it should be called, The Greedy Babies.
Why do you guys need loot so bad, is it really that important?

I support:
1. make raid mobs 4 times harder
2. make it more difficult so this clusterfuck rat race works (people just need their asses kicked harder: raid mobs are end game content, and the content is being bulldosed.)
Also, people playing his server are good, and this content is too casual for them.
3. GM's stop trying to make this work so hard, we're at a point where your workload needs to be reduced. Stop babysitting, because it doesn't do anything for you, stop explaining yourselves unless it only takes 5min. (we respect you whether you babysit us or not, do your job and we are happy)

The problem can't be mediated, these people have already sunken so low, don't be dragged down.
(ban, ignore, mute are efficent tools)

[Zexa]

Originally Posted by cassaruby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why we can't have nice things.

If we merge raiding guilds it should be called, The Greedy Babies.
Why do you guys need loot so bad, is it really that important?

I support:
1. make raid mobs 4 times harder
2. make it more difficult so this clusterfuck rat race works (people just need their asses kicked harder)

Who says anything about loot? We want fairness.

Trans is in a rotation with IB for Vox. Trans has done nothing but wipe to Vox. They have only managed to kill Vox twice after hours of wipes once Vox has been bugged out and her 500 DD AoE removed. They get to keep the loot both times.

I can accept that they are being given the chance to rotate if that's the only option we have, but I would expect that the guild we share it with be required to actually kill the content legitly.

[cassaruby]

Originally Posted by Zexa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who says anything about loot? We want fairness.

Trans is in a rotation with IB for Vox. Trans has done nothing but wipe to Vox. They have only managed to kill Vox twice after hours of wipes once Vox has been bugged out and her 500 DD AoE removed. They get to keep the loot both times.

I can accept that they are being given the chance to rotate if that's the only option we have, but I would expect that the guild we share it with be required to actually kill the content legitly.

lol, who says we bought the hookers for prostitution, we didn't want to have sex with the hookers (no not us).
whatever you wants the loots and the power. the raid mobs were designed for loot and power. that's why there is an issue and why it can't be fair, unless people put fun before greed.

What's mo fun?:
1. an evening of killing a raid mob and celebrating
or
2. spending entirely too much time and bitching, over raid mobs, so you can be at the top of the rat race with loot and power?

You want fairness. Sorry the world isn't fair and never will be, we're all on the same boat and we all got to live here together. If you want fairness, then struggle hard and show it.

There will be no peace, without justice. and how can we serve justice, when we're a bunch of chickens running around with our heads cut off. look, we're all being retarded, and unless people start standing up and making stuff happen it never will.

Never will happen, unless enough people make it happen.

And that's what the GM's want (that's what we can do for this server if we try). Stand up, do good business or you can't have nice things.

Answer:
Greed and manipulation needs to stop.
Playing Everquest and having fun needs to increase
Raid mobs are a small sandbox, so respect it (or have fun playing in your sandbox full of catshit, wearing you're fancy robes that you had to dig threw a catshitty sandbox to find)

Problems:
Trans and IB feeding and strong rat race, decreasing fun (we gotta get lvls, we gotta get loot, we gotta be the best, we gotta catch em all, gotta gotaa gotttaaaaa AHHHHH!)
GM's over working
Lazy people crying all day

Also, and lastly i would recommend ignoring the trolls, or you will continue argueing over troll issues, and wasting everyone's time. bob and weave through the trolls, and post something useful.

[Supreme]

I am glad there will be rotation it is something that does not only benefit Transcendence but will benefit ANY guild that comes up.

[Jero]

keeping raid mobs on rotation might be the silliest thing i ever heard , first come first serve is how its always been ....

i would rather address the issue of 50's claiming camp on entire zones , so silly they feel they have the right to an entire zone while groups of people want to go there get exp and maybe a named spawn, but they can't cause of the greed in some of the Trans and IB players

[Recyclebin]

Great post Cykubis...

Personally I have a 23 druid, 11 cleric and 11 warrior at the moment and the IB/Trans stuff makes it very hard for me to want to get level 50...right now I am just having fun and not concerning myself about how fast I can get to 50 to raid 10 year old content.

I like advertising for the server and try to drive population to the server and i've seen a handful of days lately where Crushbone has anywhere from 7-20 people in it and that to me...is AWESOME..However I constantly hope when I direct someone to this project that don't see this insanely immature guild bickerfest on the forums.

Fortunately I leveled up before reading the forums much. I know between IB and Trans you guys have a whole lot of level 50's between you why don't you help out your lesser player? Community service of sorts -- Guilds that can't play nice should be forced to power level lesser players or assist lower level players or face actual punishment (removal of OOC, shut down PoF or any other raid zones, etc.)

[Pheer]

Is this the part where you try to cover yourself by saying you knew what you were saying was untrue and that you were trying to prove some kind of point allizia?

[Ektar]

the strength of less is best is that you have fewer people to gear up. Simple example... with 15 melees, you need 15 cloaks of flame. with 30 melees, you need 30 cloaks of flame.

Now that's just an example, obviously cloaks of flame will just help, whether 15/15 have it or 15/30. But equate that to everything else, and you now have 15/15 useful members on the raid instead of 15/30 (useful is a strong term, but work with me I'm about to leave!).

Now, it may seem that it wouldn't hurt to have those extra 15 people. However, it can. With every person there is a chance of doing something wrong. With the extra people, you have a greater chance of an error occurring. Half of these people are unessential to the raid, and therein is the strength of less is best.


This post is merely an objective reply. I am not throwing judgments at either side, mkay. However, this is what is meant by calling trans a "zerg" guild (once again, while I may or may not think this personally, it is NOT what I am voicing here).

Love,

Ektar "Staying Out of the Hate" Sexbot

fucking christ, like 5 posts got in while I was posting this. this one is meant for after the question of what is less is best =p