Idea to stop all the fighting

[username1337]

Originally Posted by Charms [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's funny that all the people saying that this wouldn't be classic are the only people that think having camped loot for hours upon hours from absolutely random drop chances for most every item, would rather continue to sit on their asses and waste more time on such a slowly paced game.

Raiding is no where near like it was on live, because there are no maintenance days. The folks here at P99 think they're making changes that will help the situation, but it's never going to change.

Who the fuck cares if more people have access to the HANDFUL of raid targets and zones around? Only the people who actually enjoy the poopsocking, harassing GMs about the rules, complaining and bitching, and calling contested Everquest mobs in zones like VP or the Planes, 'competition'.

"Oh my god, you mean if shit was instanced, instead of spending 100 hours camping Fear for a set of xyz, they'll be spending 100 hours camping it still?!!!!"

Changing the zones to instances (sans the PvP Server), doesn't change the loot drop chances. The only reason they would increase is due to no system of lockouts, which Everquest most definitely has. And for anyone who wants to argue that you could have six different raids going on per every lockout timer, which would mean up to 6x the loot being dropped, people would be locked to their instance. Have it be lockout upon entry, and first mob killed. Really would be a simple system to prevent loot sales from the planes. If you entered any Plane you had an automatic 3 hour lock to that instance, if you killed a mob, even a trash mob, you'd be locked to that instance for the remainder of the lockout. If the lockout was 3 days, you could do it every three days. If someone really wanted to sit around and buy loot from the planes, they'd have a whopping two chances to do it every six hours, and they'd have to pray that the two raids during that six hours are spaced apart and not going on at the same time. Keep the non-requirement zones contested, Vox, Naggy, Kunark Dragons sans VP, Venril, etc. That's literally the only 'competition' Blue can speak of. I find it absolutely hilarious that people on a non-pvp server are complaining about other people getting primarily no-drop loot, on a server where it matters the least. "OH MAN DID YOU SEE THAT JOE'S GUILD GOT ALL THAT GOOD GEAR LAST NIGHT? THEY'LL BE ABLE TO KILL 1% CLOSER TO THE RATE THAT WE DO NOW! RUH-ROH!!!" Seriously, get over yourselves.

It's too bad it couldn't be done here, it certainly never will be. The only thing that will help Kunark and Planes raid availability is going to be Velious, even then people will still be raiding the Planes and Kunark. Don't expect anything other than what happens day in and day out.

Basically. What people call "competition" on P1999 is laughable. I guarantee if scheduled simulated patch days were introduced (as was classic) then this "competition" fiasco would be over in a heartbeat.

[arsenalpow]

Ok it's pointless to even attempt to fix this situation.

Pixel race 2012!!!

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok it's pointless to even attempt to fix this situation.

Pixel race 2012!!!

I am all ears on how you think TMO should give you mobs regardless of all other things concerned.

I am all ears on how you think TMO trained you on purpose.

I am all ears on how BDA couldn't of done anything more to alleviate the problem of that situation.

I'm more than willing to talk about anything you have to say, so long as you come at it from a reasonable and logic standpoint.

However, I am not gonna sit here and listen to you spout "OMFG TMO TRAINDED US AND WE DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG. WE ARE ANGELS AND THEY STOLE MY BIEK!"

I've been working to get other guilds into more targets within the current set-up of P99s ways. I doubt many of you do anything but bitch when shit gets fucked by both sides.

When you stick two twigs in a cheerio, some berries are gonna rub homie.

[quido]

If I stick my twig in your cheerio, will you rub my berries, homie?

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am all ears on how you think TMO should give you mobs regardless of all other things concerned.

I am all ears on how you think TMO trained you on purpose.

I am all ears on how BDA couldn't of done anything more to alleviate the problem of that situation.

I'm more than willing to talk about anything you have to say, so long as you come at it from a reasonable and logic standpoint.

However, I am not gonna sit here and listen to you spout "OMFG TMO TRAINDED US AND WE DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG. WE ARE ANGELS AND THEY STOLE MY BIEK!"

I've been working to get other guilds into more targets within the current set-up of P99s ways. I doubt many of you do anything but bitch when shit gets fucked by both sides.

When you stick two twigs in a cheerio, some berries are gonna rub homie.

I'd say if another guild is trying to attempt a god/dragon, that you don't interfere with their raid.

You guys seriously know what you are doing, so don't act like you don't. You have plenty of experience on the encounters. Don't pull mobs thru another raid, very simple and polite thing.

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd say if another guild is trying to attempt a god/dragon, that you don't interfere with their raid.

You guys seriously know what you are doing, so don't act like you don't. You have plenty of experience on the encounters. Don't pull mobs thru another raid, very simple and polite thing.

I am pretty sure you read him say that they would do whatever they have to do to make sure VD doesn't get the target.....

[quido]

Go ahead and tag our mobs some more - I hope you train yourselves even harder next time.

Vesica Dei likes to dispute the methods which they also employ because they are shittier at employing them.

Metallikus, you are a whiny scrub. Get a clue.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd say if another guild is trying to attempt a god/dragon, that you don't interfere with their raid.

You guys seriously know what you are doing, so don't act like you don't. You have plenty of experience on the encounters. Don't pull mobs thru another raid, very simple and polite thing.

by that reasoning, any guild could simply leap frog another (in terms of location) and simply cock block the guild behind them.

A guild could simply move anywhere to block another.

If Kitai hadn't of set off the DT, we probably wouldn't have pulled. Your team was attempting a shot at the net, we weren't going to let it happen, plain and simple.

While you sit here and bash TMO for pulling and killing Inny, I don't doubt you'd be telling a different story if you'd have gotten the pull/kill.

Or was VD's reasoning to port up to hate to just cheer on BDA? Do me a solid favor, take your raging retarded logic and go play with that similar of a female Lilyanna.

Edit: In all honesty, TMO could have just rushed passed BDA to the ramp 20feet in front of them. RIGHT WHERE they were pulling mobs down from the top. We could have simply put ourselves in position to be trained by their pulls, but instead chose a location where people were not pulling mobs over. Just like we moved from the entrance where VD was pulling mobs over us.

If we did do that and had been trained, TMO still would not have petitioned it. Unlike VD, we can admit our poor choice and tactics, instead of trying to pawn them off onto others to be blamed.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am all ears on how you think TMO should give you mobs regardless of all other things concerned.

I am all ears on how you think TMO trained you on purpose.

I am all ears on how BDA couldn't of done anything more to alleviate the problem of that situation.

I'm more than willing to talk about anything you have to say, so long as you come at it from a reasonable and logic standpoint.

However, I am not gonna sit here and listen to you spout "OMFG TMO TRAINDED US AND WE DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG. WE ARE ANGELS AND THEY STOLE MY BIEK!"

I've been working to get other guilds into more targets within the current set-up of P99s ways. I doubt many of you do anything but bitch when shit gets fucked by both sides.

When you stick two twigs in a cheerio, some berries are gonna rub homie.

Lol, you did train us! Were the mobs NOT going to path down the ramp and warp directly to your camp near church? No, of course not, they have to path through two other camps first!

Again you could have done this in innys room or at the top of the ramp.

This isn't about handouts. Obviously both VD/TMO have massive rosters and the ability to instantly produce 30+ raiders at the drop of a hat so you're in it for any mob that spawns at any time. We aren't afforded that luxury. So when we do feel like we have a legitimate shot at racing for a mob only to get trained twice (once by VD at the port in, and once by TMO at the ramp) it's frustrating. It's double frustrating when both of you feel like you did nothing wrong.

Again, both of you have been at each others throats for so long that this type of shit doesn't faze you anymore. For those of us who are newer to the raid scene, this whole process comes off as insanity. So pardon me for the QQ. Any sane individual can see the lunacy in this situation.