Trakanon Rotation

[Flunklesnarkin]

I like the idea of rotation... I just don't see it happening tho


nobody to keep a rotation enforced lol

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like the idea of rotation... I just don't see it happening tho


nobody to keep a rotation enforced lol

It is like when TMO agreed to a ragefire rotation. They got off suspension and couldn't wait to get into the lair and start crapping all over the rotation that your officer agreed to. If you can't enforce agreements in your own guild, how can you cooperate with the rest of the server?

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is like when TMO agreed to a ragefire rotation. They got off suspension and couldn't wait to get into the lair and start crapping all over the rotation that your officer agreed to. If you can't enforce agreements in your own guild, how can you cooperate with the rest of the server?

was the rotation agreement violated ?

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

was the rotation agreement violated ?

I'll agree that things were set straight eventually.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Painfull acted on his own behalf, noone had a clue he was doing this in the guild. He has been suspended for it for 1 week by the server GMs, on his main character as well as on his alt. He deserved it.

If you are talking about yesterday on CT, we did not start any DT cycle when you were engaging CT. As a matter of fact, you can't start a DT cycle when CT is engaged, the golems and Draco don't DT once a DT cycle is already started. Only CT DTs on engage, the 4 other mobs only start a cycle, which can't be restarted once already active. I'm not sure what you are talking about as I was leading the TMO raid and no DT were set off.

No trains were done on TMO's part last night in Plane of fear. There are trains that come left and right in this zone because of the huge aggro range, it is more often than not unintentional and has been for the whole raid last night. Both guilds train in those circumstances, without any malicious intent. You had your fair shot at CT, you wiped. Move on.

I come back to my previous statement:

I invite you guys to come and compete with TMO in VP, no trains, no memblur, FTE rules. Whoever gets the pull gets the mob.

TMO camped at north wall, a TMO monk then tagged draco to start the DT cycle on us while we were fighting mobs. TMO did not log back in to engage anything, which would violate the recent Amelinda ruling that starting a DT cycle with no intention to engage a raid mob but only to grief another guild is a suspension worthy infraction.

About the trains, I'll agree with you that it is possible it wasnt done with malicious intent.

[Writ3r]

You TMO guys are IDIOTS... you say you love these tactics and love competition yet are trying to change the subject on an agreement that would give you MORE COMPETITION if a Trak rotation were to be put in place. If you want to agree of (what sense of accomplishment is felt if said mobs aren't being contested) then why in the world are you not giving guilds trakanon to be able to "compete/contest" in VP?

For some reason this Trak ordeal turned into a VP argument so that is where i put the above focus. However, you all (whoever thinks they are of power in here) out there crying a river flooding the moat of Karnor's up in this thread are pathetic at best trying to act like you run/dictate this server. There are people out there who love the game and want nostalgia or see their friends get phat loots by downing these targets together. To try and define "satisfaction" of playing this game only how you see it is ludicrous and shows how self serving this environment has gotten and just how virtually the same you all are as the people in the past were. Who cares who you blame for creating this so called raid scene when now it lies in your hands to be able to change it you'd rather keep it as is instead... pretty much screams complete idiocy and as a cop out.

It is a surprise why anyone would want to even enter the end game just to come into contact with this type of elevated stupidity and ignorance. Also, whoever wants to quote this or comment on it... give me and other readers something intelligent otherwise you just prove my point by giving a troll response/snark comment that you indeed aren't worth wasting time on working with in-game or out for all of those involved in this game/thread.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Maze513 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

come and compete with TMO in VP, no trains, no memblur, FTE rules. Whoever gets the pull gets the mob.

Once we see it in writing from Zeelot, we'll believe it. But this thread was about setting up a Trak rotation between TMO, VD, and BDA/Div/Taken. Hell, even if you wanted to do TMO and BDA/Div/Taken, and VD competes against TMO on their turn.

[Frieza_Prexus]

It is like when TMO agreed to a ragefire rotation. They got off suspension and couldn't wait to get into the lair and start crapping all over the rotation that your officer agreed to. If you can't enforce agreements in your own guild, how can you cooperate with the rest of the server?

TMO Agreed and abided by the rotation. Please do not stoke this fire. Yes, there were those who did not agree with it, and thankfully they put aside their reservations out of respect for the deal that was struck.

I ask again, please respect the fact that there was no violation, and do not undermine the efforts taken to ensure that the agreement stood.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO did not log back in to engage anything, which would violate the recent Amelinda ruling that starting a DT cycle with no intention to engage a raid mob but only to grief another guild is a suspension worthy infraction.

It's pretty easy to get a DT cycle going off. Even just pulling junk seems like it eventually gets one going, through chain aggro or something. I never understood it. But then again, I was never the greatest puller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[lilyanna]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

was the rotation agreement violated ?

The fallout from that was what caused Ninik to quit. She and I were sat there when TMO arrived and basically sat right in the faces of the VD cleric there and any other VD clerics that came across. TMO players consistently tried to open trade windows to prevent the pearl being handed in, standing in front of players and setting pets up also directly in front of the cleric next in the rotation. Im thankful this was not the actions of all TMO players and I certainly never tar anyone based on the actions of their guildies, however, those people there know how shitty their actions were and other guilds involved in the rotation also saw this.

That being said, the thread isnt about this, its about a fair rotation on Trak, one that includes not only TMO, VD but also other guilds. Lets get this sorted.