Scout's an absolute joke. So let's change the "rules"

[Metham]

How am i supposed to double bracer my naggy/vox toon with lvl 60 req?

[Kesselring]

Originally Posted by Metham [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How am i supposed to double bracer my naggy/vox toon with lvl 60 req?

This, THINK ABOUT THE ALTS!

[BarackObooma]

I vote for top two rollers (or highest & lowest) duel to the death, winner take all.

This would also discourage but not totally eliminate pre-60 alts. It would also be an entertaining consolation prize for the losers.

Or, roll takes place after the captain dies to ensure everyone puts in effort.

[Doil_Boil]

Originally Posted by BarackObooma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I vote for top two rollers (or highest & lowest) duel to the death, winner take all.

This would also discourage but not totally eliminate pre-60 alts. It would also be an entertaining consolation prize for the losers.

Or, roll takes place after the captain dies to ensure everyone puts in effort.

So somebody that didn’t win has to get their tools again?

[JackofSpade]

Attendance taken after kill. Top 3 highest total attended roll. Level 55+ only

[loramin]

Originally Posted by JackofSpade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Attendance taken after kill. Top 3 highest total attended roll. Level 55+ only

While I like the idea of treating Scout like guild loot .... who is going to show up to every scout roll to take attendance? And what three other players from different guilds are going to keep copies of those attendance records to ensure that no one cheats and changes the numbers?

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^Incorrect, scout rules weren't put in for mental health, they were put in because 100 players voted on a thread and made a rule that now applies to 2k+ players

And whether they said it or not, I'm all but certain the staff's sanity was a factor. The clickfest must have been a frequent source of petitions for them.

[JackofSpade]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I like the idea of treating Scout like guild loot .... who is going to show up to every scout roll to take attendance? And what three other players from different guilds are going to keep copies of those attendance records to ensure that no one cheats and changes the numbers?

Making sure attendance was tracked honestly would obviously be the most difficult part of this type of system but if enough people were in favor of something like that I am sure it could be worked out to make cheating very very difficult. And if staff was behind the idea a permanent account ban if caught manipulating would make for an excellent deterrent.

[Jorgam]

Originally Posted by JackofSpade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Making sure attendance was tracked honestly would obviously be the most difficult part of this type of system but if enough people were in favor of something like that I am sure it could be worked out to make cheating very very difficult. And if staff was behind the idea a permanent account ban if caught manipulating would make for an excellent deterrent.

What we don't need at scout is a bureaucracy. An agreed upon lvl min and required no-role or anon toons where winning toon must loot the disk, would be enough to declutter the scout roll.

[JackofSpade]

Originally Posted by Jorgam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What we don't need at scout is a bureaucracy. An agreed upon lvl min and required no-role or anon toons where winning toon must loot the disk, would be enough to declutter the scout roll.

Not sure how my suggestion would constitute a bureaucracy, it is a player enforced meritocracy where those who have put in the most time are at the top of the list. All I was suggesting in regards to staff involvement is an extremely harsh punishment for cheaters who try to manipulate attendance logs.

[Stroboo]

Loot is not required in this game, if you don't like the rules that were put in place specifically for overall player mental health - just move on and pretend that loot does not exist - i have done this for my shaman, necro and SK epics...