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[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet we allow ourselves to be taught scientific theories that tend to usually be proven wrong by wait for it...... other scientific theories or vastly change.

On another note, like I pointed out in another thread, by definition religion is basically anything and everything, and is impossible to remove. To disagree even puts yourself into a belief that is considered religious. Those who think otherwise should just kill themselves to try and escape the idea and rid ourselves of such uselessness.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Science is not a "belief system" but a process and methodology for seeking an objective reality. Of course because scientific exploration is a human endeavor it comes with all the flaws of humanity: ego, short-sightedness, corruption and greed.

But unlike a "belief system" such as religion untethered to an objective truth, science is over time self-policing; competing scientists have a strong incentive to corroborate and build on the findings of others; but equally, to prove other scientists wrong by means that can be duplicated by others.

Nobody is doing experiments to demonstrate how Noah could live to 600 years old, because those who believe that story are not confined to reproducible evidence to support their belief. But experiments were done to show the earth orbits the sun, not the other way around.

[Eliseus]

Theory
Theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking. Depending on the context, the results might for example include generalized explanations of how nature works.

This is subjective to a majority view. If most the world believed in a theory of God, in fact God would be believed to be what exists.

A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.

be·lief
biˈlēf/
noun
noun: belief; plural noun: beliefs

1.
an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
"his belief in the value of hard work"
something one accepts as true or real; a firmly held opinion or conviction.
"contrary to popular belief, Aramaic is a living language"
synonyms: opinion, view, conviction, judgment, thinking, way of thinking, idea, impression, theory, conclusion, notion
"it's my belief that age is irrelevant"
a religious conviction.
"Christian beliefs"
synonyms: ideology, principle, ethic, tenet, canon; More
doctrine, teaching, dogma, article of faith, creed, credo
"traditional beliefs"
2.
trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.

IDK if you guys are just trying to troll or just really retarded.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just like gravity.


You are forgetting that little 'evidence' thing...

Gravity doesn't need to be taught, it can be readily observed. Throw anything up in the air and it will come back down. There is no observable evidence for evolution though. There are some cases sighted wherein a species has adapted and changed slightly within the confines of its own species. But I still haven't seen any actual evidence of one type of animal, plant, or bacterium changing into a different type of said organism.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gravity doesn't need to be taught, it can be readily observed. Throw anything up in the air and it will come back down. There is no observable evidence for evolution though. There are some cases sighted wherein a species has adapted and changed slightly within the confines of its own species. But I still haven't seen any actual evidence of one type of animal, plant, or bacterium changing into a different type of said organism.

This is actually a great example of what I'm referring to also. There is this majority view among the scientific community that evolution must be how it works, so it is commonly accepted. Yet there isn't really any actual proof behind this, and excuse that it would basically take so long to legitimately prove such concept was real that we must just accept that this is what it is. No ones got time for dis basically. Even more laughable is claims of evolution based of similar features that might exist in animals, or an animal and humans, therefore we must of been a bird one day in our life.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gravity doesn't need to be taught, it can be readily observed. Throw anything up in the air and it will come back down. There is no observable evidence for evolution though. There are some cases sighted wherein a species has adapted and changed slightly within the confines of its own species. But I still haven't seen any actual evidence of one type of animal, plant, or bacterium changing into a different type of said organism.

Your response shows your lack of education on the subject matter. First you are ignoring the fossil record. Secondly you ignore that evolution is a process that takes extremely long periods of time which is why you haven't seen it yet.

Are you going to claim that neptune doesn't orbit the Sun because it hasn't yet completed a full orbit since its discovery?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IDK if you guys are just trying to troll or just really retarded.

Eliseus you are not smarter than a sceientist so stop trying to write shit where youre like, BAM I JUST DISPROVED SCIENCE using vocabulary!

This is the type of shit people that dont believe in science believe is science and how it proves science is not science. Science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

stop quoting shit you heard in church when discussing science. Cus its always missinformation.

Have faith in what you believe in, stop QQing. Science isnt going to take away your beliefe system, it just illustrates how off base it is. Ignore it, and prey the gay away.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your response shows your lack of education on the subject matter. First you are ignoring the fossil record. Secondly you ignore that evolution is a process that takes extremely long periods of time which is why you haven't seen it yet.

Are you going to claim that neptune doesn't orbit the Sun because it hasn't yet completed a full orbit since its discovery?

Fossils don't prove any accuracy towards evolution. All is proves at that one point on an estimated time frame, that some kind of animal or humanoid had some relevant features to something else. Fossils don't directly support evolution at all. It's not like they dig them up and carved into the fossil is "I was X animal once upon a time".

And technically, you could claim that. If everyone responds in this thread based off of fact, in all actuality, yes you could claim that that is false. The difference here is though you can use supporting evidence from other things that are similar that have revolved around the sun already and make a pretty safe assumption.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eliseus you are not smarter than a sceientist so stop trying to write shit where youre like, BAM I JUST DISPROVED SCIENCE using vocabulary!

This is the type of shit people that dont believe in science believe is science and how it proves science is not science. Science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

stop quoting shit you heard in church when discussing science. Cus its always missinformation.

Have faith in what you believe in, stop QQing. Science isnt going to take away your beliefe system, it just illustrates how off base it is. Ignore it, and prey the gay away.

Umadbadfat and owned.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your response shows your lack of education on the subject matter. First you are ignoring the fossil record. Secondly you ignore that evolution is a process that takes extremely long periods of time which is why you haven't seen it yet.

Are you going to claim that neptune doesn't orbit the Sun because it hasn't yet completed a full orbit since its discovery?

I'm not ignoring the fossil record at all. In fact the fossil record is actually the biggest obstacle to evolutionary theory, because there have only ever been found fully formed fossils, and none of the transitional fossils that would be not only necessary but abundant if evolution were true.
Also its funny that you point out that evolution is not directly observable. How is it that it is accepted as scientific fact if it defies the scientific process by its very nature. By the scientific process it would have to be observable and repeatable. It is neither.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are forgetting that little 'evidence' thing...

Right, scientific studies demonstrably hinge upon scrupulous peer review and years of crosschecking. The thing about scientific arguments is they are falsifiable, which is the mark of a good argument - religious arguments that point to an all-powerful creator still have yet to square the infinite regression rebuttal which, put simply, asks, "What came before that all-powerful creator?"

An arguments that point to an omnipotent creator at the beginning of everything is simply unfalsifiable, and is a grandiose claim made with very little evidence, and can therefore be dismissed with very little evidence.

And on the point of what religion actually is, I think most of us here are capable of making that distinction. Science is not a religion, and is irreconcilable with religion. As Stephen Gould said, science and religion are non-overlapping magisteria - they both do completely different things and simply can't be conflated. However, I disagree with Gould when he posits that there shouldn't be an argument between the two.