Doljon Trains Hate, attempts to KS an already FTE'd Maestro

[caleros]

We 100% believe in the GM's and the rulings, there was some confusion in the guild about FTE rules on our part but we're still learning.

We've competed against IB and FE in sky and raced against BDA, AG at Fayd, Taken and A-team in pohate, not sure where the "dolj is targetting only little guilds is coming from" but /shrug

Fear, really doesn't matter what i say about this, I've seen rotation Class-R guilds race/snipe for Verina/Drozlin, yet shissir it's a sin to race against a pug of 12 who were sitting at zonein not even close to the mob. We 100% did not train anyone and its impossible to prove since that did not happen

[Sinestria]

Originally Posted by caleros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We 100% believe in the GM's and the rulings, there was some confusion in the guild about FTE rules on our part but we're still learning.

We've competed against IB and FE in sky and raced against BDA, AG at Fayd, Taken and A-team in pohate, not sure where the "dolj is targetting only little guilds is coming from" but /shrug

Fear, really doesn't matter what i say about this, I've seen rotation Class-R guilds race/snipe for Verina/Drozlin, yet shissir it's a sin to race against a pug of 12 who were sitting at zonein not even close to the mob. We 100% did not train anyone and its impossible to prove since that did not happen

You idiots should just stick to your normal tactic of forum avoidance. Seeing you try to deny, justify, and lawyer is just fucking pathetic.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by caleros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We 100% believe in the GM's and the rulings, there was some confusion in the guild about FTE rules on our part but we're still learning.

We've competed against IB and FE in sky and raced against BDA, AG at Fayd, Taken and A-team in pohate, not sure where the "dolj is targetting only little guilds is coming from" but /shrug

Fear, really doesn't matter what i say about this, I've seen rotation Class-R guilds race/snipe for Verina/Drozlin, yet shissir it's a sin to race against a pug of 12 who were sitting at zonein not even close to the mob. We 100% did not train anyone and its impossible to prove since that did not happen

Us zoning into TD, tagging Fay, pulling Fay to ogre island, and killing Fay while you were in zone with like an hour headstart wasn't really "competing" ...

[caleros]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Us zoning into TD, tagging Fay, pulling Fay to ogre island, and killing Fay while you were in zone with like an hour headstart wasn't really "competing" ...

just making sure if we do that to another guild it's considered ok and not leapfrogging?

Rellapse nailed it, that's art right there A+

[Babayaaga]

Ok so let me recap the week's events... if just to get my own comprehension straight.

1) Lord Bob asks to join the rotation.

2) Lord Bob sees that they are at the bottom of the rotation list (naturally), and have to wait their turn to become part of said rotation.

3) Lord Bob says "Fuck This", and goes back to old tricks (trying to compete for rotation mobs).

4) Key leadership figure in Lord Bob discovered to be veteran player with shady past on P99.

5) Lord Bob steals a Sky Slot, and then goes on to Leapfrog/Train/KS a FTE on Maestro.

Did I miss any details here, or does this pretty much cover it?

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Babayaaga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok so let me recap the week's events... if just to get my own comprehension straight.

1) Lord Bob asks to join the rotation.

2) Lord Bob sees that they are at the bottom of the rotation list (naturally), and have to wait their turn to become part of said rotation.

3) Lord Bob says "Fuck This", and goes back to old tricks (trying to compete for rotation mobs).

4) Key leadership figure in Lord Bob discovered to be veteran player with shady past on P99.

5) Lord Bob steals a Sky Slot, and then goes on to Leapfrog/Train/KS a FTE on Maestro.

Did I miss any details here, or does this pretty much cover it?

You forgot 1 Lord Bob member banned for 2-boxxing while running MQ2 late Saturday night in SolB at Efreeti camp. And another Lord Bob member being banned for scamming people in EC tunnel while "selling" black sapphires/diamonds/jacinths. But other than that, yeah.

[slappytwotoes]

Originally Posted by Babayaaga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok so let me recap the week's events... if just to get my own comprehension straight.

1) Lord Bob asks to join the rotation.

2) Lord Bob sees that they are at the bottom of the rotation list (naturally), and have to wait their turn to become part of said rotation.

3) Lord Bob says "Fuck This", and goes back to old tricks (trying to compete for rotation mobs).

4) Key leadership figure in Lord Bob discovered to be veteran player with shady past on P99.

5) Lord Bob steals a Sky Slot, and then goes on to Leapfrog/Train/KS a FTE on Maestro.

Did I miss any details here, or does this pretty much cover it?

You missed where they leapfrogged/trained and stole a Shissar from a PUG raid in Fear

[Derubael]

Protip: If another guild has FTE on a raid target, and you happened to hit it after they got FTE, camp/CT gate pot/gate/zone out. We call the addition of another person on the mobs aggro list a 'secondary'. If you're the secondary and not in the guild who got FTE, you are essentially screwing yourself because you will at the very least extend the encounter or possibly end up kill stealing another guilds mob.

If you're going to competitively raid, situational awareness and a firm grasp of FTE mechanics are highly recommended. I suggest taking Professors Sloan and Unbrella's course, Competitive Raiding 101: Sirken table flips, Derubael phone slams, and how to avoid them

May I also recommend Dr. Alarti's class, Advanced Competitive Raiding FTE Snipe 102: Make other guilds get suspended and kill your targets

[Splorf22]

A-Team definitely not a small guild any more. We zerg it up like everyone else now.

[Heebo]

Ur