About Spawn variance....

[Chicka]

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, no you don't.

First to engage would still see it happening, just maybe not to the extent it is now. Why? Because FTE still rewards the behaviour because of the edge it provides by being able to tackle it first.

The only way to end camping is to have it hold little to no advantage at all in a claiming process.

The only "claim" about FTE is that you did indeed FTE. If some guild wants to camp on that basis WITHOUT variance - watch them get steamrollered by the better guild.

That is my point, we have rule upon rule where none was needed. Vanilla EQ worked, it rewarded those who could engage first AND kill the mob with what they engaged it with or could get there in time.

We have these non-classic rules because (as has been said numerous times) the GMs don't really want to be bothered with it. Yet intentional trainers get wrist slaps, not bans, and guilds not following the claim rules get another guilds loot destroyed (gee must hurt to steal a boss mob while your training the guild with claim, and the penalty is the loot gets destroyed.)

If you are going to be soft on the hard ballers, expect to spend time dealing with their BS again, and again, and again. Adding dumb rules for everyone else to follow won't fix that.

Personally, if I were a GM, I would far rather turn up to a known spawn time for a mob ready to perma-ban the bad guys, than the current situation where it is basically 24/7 something could be up.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

jesus H fucking christ LOL. Supreme, you're fucking high. LET IT BE 20 DAYS VARIANCE! k?

Variance is exactly 2.5 days to 3.5 days for 3 days spawns and 6 to 8 days for 7 days spawns. There's no IF here. It is what it is!

Nizzar you must have batshit for brains.


Nilbogs post states that a boss mob has a 4 day window of spawning thus a +/- 48 hour from 7 day. It is 5-9 days not 6-8.

Read the fucking post or just stfu and stop shit staining my thread.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Chicka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have these non-classic rules because (as has been said numerous times) the GMs don't really want to be bothered with it.

We have these rules because guilds got together and made them, and they were necessary at the time because of all the QQ that went on. Go back to the old threads and take a peek. Wasn't pretty.

The rules need to be changed again. They don't work. There's only two real options to change the rules. Get everyone together and make new ones -

OR

ignore the rules en masse. Which would take inter-guild cooperation to do, and isn't as easy as tabling current concerns.

[Evorix]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nizzar you must have batshit for brains.


Nilbogs post states that a boss mob has a 4 day window of spawning thus a +/- 48 hour from 7 day. It is 5-9 days not 6-8.

Read the fucking post or just stfu and stop shit staining my thread.

The post is wrong. I know for a fact that it is not +/- 48hours.

[Supreme]

Spawn Variance

A variance of +/- 48 hours will be added to the following: Lord Nagafen, Lady Vox, Cazic-Thule, Innoruuk.


Q: Can we continue to camp the raid mobs?
A: Certainly. If you want to have fifteen of your guild members sitting at every spawn site (six mobs to be precise) for 96 hours straight anticipating a spawn with the ability to mobilize not only those fifteen people but as well as any other required members to kill your intended target, all within the 30 minute time frame. By all means go ahead. I am sure after a few failed sessions due to not being able to mobilize quick enough, people won`t be willing to sit there for 4 days straight for months on end.

This is coming from Nilibog in his post "Raid Rules".

I am not sure where you are coming up with 6-8 day spawn but it is clear that it is a 96 hour window and not a 48 hour window. Thus making it a 5-9 day spawn cycle for boss mobs.

That means that we see 12-20 boss mobs in a 30 day cycle based on 7 day spawn that was standard on live. We should be seeing 16-20 instead. This i am pushing for a 5-7 day rotation to increase the spawns.

You may know for a fact but the people that designed the system are saying otherwise.

[Valent]

How many people have to tell you that THE SPAWN VARIANCE IS +/- 12 hours for Mestro and Draco and +/- 24 hours for Vox, Naggy, CT and Inny. You know how many hours we have put into camping these mobs to figure out the spawn mechanics? Way to many to count.

So you got your wish in your original post and you didn't even know it. Thread over

[Virtuosos]

i say no once a week timer thingy....soon as you kill a boss, he has a chance to pop 5minutes later ~ a week later.


BAM!

[Virtuosos]

did....did i win? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[G13]

Originally Posted by Uaellaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its alright mister bush, yes the iraq does definatly have weapons of mass destruction and it is crucial to invade that country

You're making yourself look completely retarded in this thread

[Uaellaen]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're making yourself look completely retarded in this thread

do i? i think my analogy may have been too complex for you then ...

just like the people that do not get that the spawn variance is + - 24 hours for draco / maestro and + - 48 for the other 4 bosses ...

i dont see where you take the confidence to deny this since it is clearly stated in the raid rules ... OH YES RIGHT!!! you are smarter then the people that actualy coded it, so you know it better!