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Old 08-17-2012, 10:49 AM
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Again, a GM had the occasion to set a precedent, which would better the raid scene, but chose to backup the low move again (when "play nice" and "FTE" rules are conflicting, the FTE one was once again picked).

Can only lead to more drama and tin foil imo, but whatever.

P.S: TMO has always been doing this for Trakanon, when they can't win it in a competitive way. So either FTE them in return (and pray for GM to back you up), or if you don't want to lower yourself to their "standards", hope next time it will just go better. Nothing's perfect, so is p99 raid scene.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:12 PM
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Again, a GM had the occasion to set a precedent, which would better the raid scene, but chose to backup the low move again (when "play nice" and "FTE" rules are conflicting, the FTE one was once again picked).

Can only lead to more drama and tin foil imo, but whatever.

P.S: TMO has always been doing this for Trakanon, when they can't win it in a competitive way. So either FTE them in return (and pray for GM to back you up), or if you don't want to lower yourself to their "standards", hope next time it will just go better. Nothing's perfect, so is p99 raid scene.
How can using FTE, which has been the standard for years, cause more tinfoil and drama?

You know what causes more tinfoil/drama, setting a new precedent on a raid dispute.

PS. You know nothing of which you speak. Every guild (who actually kill raid targets with another raid in the zone) has used fte snipes.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:19 PM
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How can using FTE, which has been the standard for years, cause more tinfoil and drama?

You know what causes more tinfoil/drama, setting a new precedent on a raid dispute.

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Did it cause drama when "first to 15" was repealed?
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:11 AM
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So BDA getting an FTE call without a raid force in zone = Good!
TMO getting an FTE call with a raid force in zone = Bad?

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Old 08-17-2012, 11:45 AM
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The real question that needs to be asked...

How do you wipe to a mob that has 32k hp with 27 people?
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:47 AM
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The real question that needs to be asked...

How do you wipe to a mob that has 32k hp with 27 people?
1. No clerics
2. All rangers
3. Mass LDs
4. Trains
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:19 PM
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this guy is hilarious, it's like he speaks without thinking lol
not as funny as someone who insults without explanation!
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:21 PM
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this guy is hilarious, it's like he speaks without thinking lol
Alarti's analysis is spot on. BDA does crap like this plenty, case in point the VS last week where one BDA member ran in, pulled him ontop of a group of exping TMO, died, and then other BDA members engaged VS off of the group of TMO.

The only way you can really argue against Alarti here is if you A) don't know the facts, or B) are too stupid to understand them.

This shit just gets old and its no suprise to me why a couple of people just troll the hell out of people here. Incidents like the Draco where BDA created a train that wiped them and TMO was mistakingly blamed for a brief period of time, with BDA keeping silent on the fact that it was their own train just compound it.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:05 PM
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Alarti's analysis is spot on. BDA does crap like this plenty, case in point the VS last week where one BDA member ran in, pulled him ontop of a group of exping TMO, died, and then other BDA members engaged VS off of the group of TMO.

The only way you can really argue against Alarti here is if you A) don't know the facts, or B) are too stupid to understand them.

This shit just gets old and its no suprise to me why a couple of people just troll the hell out of people here. Incidents like the Draco where BDA created a train that wiped them and TMO was mistakingly blamed for a brief period of time, with BDA keeping silent on the fact that it was their own train just compound it.

This is how that shit went down when Blaza trained us with his sweet FTE and got our engage group killed. Me, DMX and saragirl are XP'ing in the pit, I see VS on track, I batphone it, then VS is on top of us while I'm tabbed out BP'ing. Blaza dies right on top of us, DMX engages, I couldn't get back over in time to heal him. I then proceed to keep Kegluas up for ~25 seconds solo (pro, I know right). And not only VS was trained on us by them, about 5 other mobs as well, you can see them spamming me while healing. Go cry some more, that would have been our VS easily if you didn't train our engage group.
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:08 AM
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