Iksar Monk: 20 sta the endgame choice?

[Solist]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You would still have Robe of the Azure Sky since it has 5 more resists than Shroud. Monk gear especially has less options for resistance gear, unlike plate.

Dude, no real monk has the bag space for carrying something like that. Any that do are shitter's collecting shinies, not winning mobs.

Also if we're using that logic, he should carry a Ssra's eyepatch for the extra +1 to all over the doze face.

/bonk

Anyway, why is that monk magelo being used anyway, it's pretty far from BiS or ideal for anything.
FoN+Gharns for stats & DPS over abashi.
ST Earring
Vulak face over doze arguably. it's a tossup.
Probably SS boots over destroyer for HP
Vyemm range over a shuriken
PD robe over ikky chest

Huge amount of resists missing from that for no real loss.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, no real monk has the bag space for carrying something like that. Any that do are shitter's collecting shinies, not winning mobs.

Also if we're using that logic, he should carry a Ssra's eyepatch for the extra +1 to all over the doze face.

/bonk

Anyway, why is that monk magelo being used anyway, it's pretty far from BiS or ideal for anything.
FoN+Gharns for stats & DPS over abashi.
ST Earring
Vulak face over doze arguably. it's a tossup.
Probably SS boots over destroyer for HP
Vyemm range over a shuriken
PD robe over ikky chest

Huge amount of resists missing from that for no real loss.

If you want to go with the "real monk" argument, a "real monk" won't have a Shroud of Longevity either[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Statistically speaking most Monks will not have that item.

I agree that the Magelo provided earlier wasn't great, so let's make some better ones! When discussing full BiS gear the question becomes which combination yields the most stats, not which individual items are awesome.

These are not going to use a range item, because Monks will be pulling with javelins in the ranged slot often enough. Obviously you can switch between a ranged weapon and a stat item, but realistically that is not always easy when doing tough pulls, and you can still get AoE'd while you have the ranged item equipped.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_...MMonkBiSTest01 - This first one is what it would take to get as close to 205 MR as possible without sacrificing too much. The magic number is 205 because flowers give you +50 to each resistance as a buff. This one gets us to 204 MR when wearing a Robe of the Azure Sky.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_...MMonkBiSTest02 - This one assumes the Monk was able to get both the Robe of Longetivity and the Clawed Guardian Bracer from warders. This one gets to 204 MR as well due to the Clawed Guardian Bracer.

As you can see, the stat differences are extremely minor. With buffs you are simply looking at a difference of 15HP. Really the only difference between the Shroud of Longevity wearing monk and the Robe of Azure Sky monk is the +9 regeneration you would get. You cannot use the full 15 amount because both setups have 3 Aura of Battle items.

I believe most people agree human monks are just as capable as Iksar monks without the +8 standing regeneration. Realistically speaking if that is the case, you can live without the +9 regeneration as well. You could also think of an Iksar monk as a human monk wearing warder loot[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Due to how close the Magelos are, this becomes (yet again) more of a fight about how useful racials are than anything else. If you believe Shroud of Longetivity's regeneration is a game changer, then you must also say Iksar regeneration is a game changer. This means human monks have a significant disadvantage.

[meathook]

Depends what you think your endgame is gonna look like. But if you think youre gonna be one of the top geared monks on the server, then dex is the build. Sta is the build for second-tier monks who end up with 1 or 2 vulak/doze items. Top monks easily max out STA without buffs. You cant max dex without buff or large sacrifices in other stats.

People on p99 consistently underestimate how relevant dex is.

Here is my Magelo: https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Green:Meathookk

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A bis monk would have a shroud, sorry you dont got warder loot

Aren't most shroud monks humans? tsk tsk tsk.

Sadly it's also too ugly to be considered BIS by any credible metric. It's one of those cursed items. If you have it youll have to wear it forever even though you look like poop, literally.