Casual TLP

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everyone I know who plays p99 is rolling on Yelinak so there is that

Noone that I play with on p99 is rolling on Yelinak, so there is that also. /shrug

[PlsNoBan]

I know literally 0 people excited about or talking about playing Yelinak. It's like the 8th rehash of the Phinny TLP model with slightly different xp and/or expansion unlock rate. Vaniki is at least doing something new/different. Try some variety elf pals! You might be surprised

[tadkins]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know literally 0 people excited about or talking about playing Yelinak. It's like the 8th rehash of the Phinny TLP model with slightly different xp and/or expansion unlock rate. Vaniki is at least doing something new/different. Try some variety elf pals! You might be surprised

I'm excited for Yelinak.

This will be my first TLP, so it will be a new journey for me. Granted I am a bit nervous, as I know this will be my first rodeo while it will be probably the 8th for many, so I am probably already at a disadvantage.

I'm not really sure what kind of audience Vaniki is aimed at. I still don't fully understand that server concept. I just know I want to play progressively starting with the Classic era, and slowly learn the expansions as they come along. I actually didn't hate Luclin.

One thing I am not nervous about though is that I can rest in the knowledge that I can join a more relaxed, friendly guild, and know that it is going to get to do raid content without getting pushed around by Force of Will, Kingdom or Seal Team equivalents.

All I ever wanted to do is see and fight Vox, Nagafen, Innoruuk and Cazic-Thule, and earn something cool that simply can't be bought in the EC tunnel. And I have 0 confidence at this point that it's ever going to happen on P99. So I only really have one option left.

[Coridan]

I'm more excited for the EQ2 TLE server than the EQ classic one. Only because there's no equivalent to P99 for EQ2

[socialist]

Why won't they make a fucking PvP TLP?

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by socialist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why won't they make a fucking PvP TLP?

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Hope that helps. Doesn't matter how vocal the minority is. Daybreak is a company that is concerned with little else but making profit (as most are) and the numbers don't lie. The numbers prove time and time again how unpopular EQ PvP servers are. If there was actually an enormous group of people clamoring for EQ PvP you can bet your ass Daybreak would want to cash in on it.

[socialist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Hope that helps. Doesn't matter how vocal the minority is. Daybreak is a company that is concerned with little else but making profit (as most are) and the numbers don't lie. The numbers prove time and time again how unpopular EQ PvP servers are. If there was actually an enormous group of people clamoring for EQ PvP you can bet your ass Daybreak would want to cash in on it.

Everquest PvP can be popular. How many years did VZ/TZ maintain hundreds of players? Red99 fucked itself in the ass by inventing a broken custom resist system that ruined PvP, and by launching with no rule enforcement whatsoever, allowing certain idiots to just continuously train people until they quit.

Besides, if you scaled P99's total population up to the level that retail EQ has, red99's population would scale into the hundreds just on a mathematical basis. On a project where the busiest server peaks at, what is it now, 7-800? And red peaks somewhere around 50, you can imagine that a retail PvP TLP would be comparatively higher. There's tens of thousands of people playing retail EQ.

Most importantly, the TLPs actually have a number of features that would make PvP easier to stomach for the less hardcore player. There are no corpse runs, there are zone picks and instanced raiding, there's boxing so you can port yourself around, and there's the option to spend $$ on items so you can actually obtain a Tranix crown or whatever without playing 16h/day.

Red99 failed because that specific server was bad and mismanaged. In no way is it evidence that an EQ PvP server cannot succeed. If they launched a PvP TLP, I guarantee that the sheer novelty and uniqueness of it would make it highly popular at least until the end of PoP. How could it possibly not maintain at least a few hundred players, which is more than enough. It would literally be the only place in the world to enjoy EQ PvP to any meaningful extent.

[Bardp1999]

After the initial week-long grind to max level, TLPs devolve into logging in to instanced raid content and then logging out until the next raid. There is shockingly little to do in EQ when you are only concerned about raid loot. This is magnified BIG TIME in the "classic" era.

Also, spoiler alert - Raiding on EQ is fucking awful.

[tadkins]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, spoiler alert - Raiding on EQ is fucking awful.

I still want to experience it, at least once.

It's all I've ever wanted to do, ever since I read about those guilds back in the day killing those guys on the crappy high school library computer. Just always wanted to be part of a guild like that.

[MrSparkle001]

So live has no more corpse runs? Do you respawn with all your gear?

Sounds like modern EQ has fixed a lot of the problems classic EQ had.