Nice move Shillary...

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will look it over but already red flags are going off with the author (((Hannah Arendt))).

The 704 pages concerns me more.

Secure the support of the generals, muster public fervor, create an other to ostracize, establish grass roots momentum, and then profit. Bam, one sentence.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nature boy

Hah! Interesting, people use to call me "spirit boy" when I was a boy (well in my teens), I just sort of knew things.

But still, in this case, the model was temporary. It had a short term effect, yes, but this is often the case when governments reform and push in a different direction, if they ditch corruption from the previous government. The difference is on proven outcome. Since the system wasn't able to continue, projecting what could have been is simply theoretical. But unfortunately, compared to the history of governments, they all eventually collapse. I'm not putting it as fact, not in and of itself, since we really didn't see a prolonged result of it. But in comparison to every other government that has risen and fallen, one can only theorize along those lines as is the usual plight of government throughout history. With it's ending, we are only left with it's once held theory, a govt system claimed to be able to endure 1000 years. I can't observe that since it's gone, so no facts involved by any perspective.

Many of the guys that wrote up our constitution knew about this, about the problems of government in general, which is why they stressed limited government. Over 200 years, not a bad run so far. Of course things are changing, it's growing and out of control far beyond it's original limited powers. I'm certain that what we have now can't last much longer, as is the norm. It wasn't ideal perfection, that's for sure, but it was enduring to a point, and then it was abandoned for a new idea, same as every other.

If we are so advanced, we shouldn't even need a nanny state. If we are so enlightened, we should be able to self-govern rather than to be as children for some government entity to monitor and make decisions for us. But what we get out of govt is mostly the blind leading the blind along with everyone else often by force. It's about as bad as a sighted man being lead at fast pace by a half-hazard blind man though busy city streets. We are always stuck with the human component with government, thus the more of that component you have, the more likely it'll fail. It's just a given.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hah! Interesting, people use to call me "spirit boy" when I was a boy (well in my teens), I just sort of knew things.

take this sort of sh*t to RNF



































period

[Ahldagor]

Daywolf, you can't be that ignorant of Ric Flair. Dude's a legend.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Daywolf, you can't be that ignorant of Ric Flair. Dude's a legend.

Well yeah he already let me know he was talking about someone else. Really, for the life of me, I only understand about half of what AtG ever says... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
So it changes the reply I guess, but all sorted out.

ps and no, I didn't know who Flair was/is. I stopped watching wrestling a long time ago. I did for a while though, Hogan, Piper, Andre the Giant etc. I just mostly watch motorsports, GP and F1 mainly.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The 704 pages concerns me more.

Secure the support of the generals, muster public fervor, create an other to ostracize, establish grass roots momentum, and then profit. Bam, one sentence.

the point of Arendt is that we can all be evil, like Eichman, you don't need to be a sociopath

you can link that to the stanford and milgram experiments for example

The dynamics of people as a group are different i think.. i'm not really a psychologist/sociologist

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the point of Arendt is that we can all be evil, like Eichman, you don't need to be a sociopath

you can link that to the stanford and milgram experiments for example

The dynamics of people as a group are different i think.. i'm not really a psychologist/sociologist

I get that. Just 704 pages is a bit much. A 25 page essay would be sufficient.

[Jarnauga]

Back on topic:

Q: So now that we’ve seen how many people have watched this episode, have you been approached by Donald Trump’s campaign wanting to get in on things?

A: No. That doesn’t interest me. Doing it the other way doesn’t interest me. He’s the kind of guy who likes attention – bad attention or good attention. So you’re dealing with a psychosis there that’s a little weird.

I wouldn’t have somebody on that’s so mentally challenged. I feel like I’d be taking advantage of him. And you can print that.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...nap-story.html

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