Thought on removing OOC and Yellow Text (red)

[Pokesan]

it's important to argue in favor of yellow text while holding the opinion that yellow text doesn't matter

shutup efwan

[Efwan]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's important to argue in favor of yellow text while holding the opinion that yellow text doesn't matter

shutup efwan

Shrug, I meant yellow text mattering in the "ego" or "pride" department that OP mentioned before. Yellow text is necessary because it shows where PvP is happening, and that it IS actually happening. For instance if I am grinding on my druid, or looking for people to PvP with/against and I see a friend/enemy get killed in <South Karana> I can load up a port to NK and try to get into the action. Red server is already kind of a ghost town, removing yellow text would make it even more of a ghost town.

In classic there was no yellow text, and it was fine, why? Because population was more than it is today and there were like 20 zones in all of norrath, now we have kunark and velious. There's a reason they added it for Kunark, no yellow text worked on live PvP servers because they had the population blue does right now, there were people everywhere, it was chaos, it was great.

[Aesop]

Originally Posted by Efwan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shrug, I meant yellow text mattering in the "ego" or "pride" department that OP mentioned before. Yellow text is necessary because it shows where PvP is happening, and that it IS actually happening. For instance if I am grinding on my druid, or looking for people to PvP with/against and I see a friend/enemy get killed in <South Karana> I can load up a port to NK and try to get into the action. Red server is already kind of a ghost town, removing yellow text would make it even more of a ghost town.

In classic there was no yellow text, and it was fine, why? Because population was more than it is today and there were like 20 zones in all of norrath, now we have kunark and velious. There's a reason they added it for Kunark, no yellow text worked on live PvP servers because they had the population blue does right now, there were people everywhere, it was chaos, it was great.

no, everyone pretty much knows where there is gonna be pvp already. in the zones where the loot is, you don't need yellow text to tell you that. pvp happens in oot, lodi windows, pvp happens at druid rings, pvp happens at loot camps and leveling zones.

your argument works agains you because you can't have a covert ganking squad at druid portals either because yellow text lets people know not to port there, lets people know when it's a good time to go to mistmoore to level (lots of yellow text in mistmoore? don't go to mistmoore) you are fooling yourself if you think everyone on this server is constantly searching for pvp. yes lots of people enjoy it, but lots also do not, plenty of people on live enjoyed playing on a pvp server without being a pker.

if you need yellow text to tell you if your "friend" died rather than your friend telling you then they probably are not your friends. it's not necessary at all, and even if i conceded the point that it shows where pvp is happening then my point still stands, and everyone knows its true that people plug incessantly to avoid being yellow texted. it's like the walk of shame.

your conclusion doesn't follow from your premise, i don't see how removing yellow text would make red a "ghost town" anymore than it already is. if you aren't excessively stupid you can find pvp, if I'm spoiling for a fight i can gate to oot, or go look for the guy camping swarm mother. or wait at the commons rings, or any number of places that you know from experience that people inhabit. yellow text hurts pvp just as much as it helps.

[Aesop]

also i posted it here on purpose, i know what i'm doing.

[Aesop]

i don't actually care how my fellow denizens of red "feel" about this, unless you can make a truly compelling argument for how yellow text helps more than it hurts pvp. i'm interested in more pvp, not less. i want people to stop plugging so much and actually be willing to eat a death once in a while.

there are benefits to yellow text for sure, and i enjoy handing them out also, but i see a problem with them and a problem with the general server environment that i didn't experience on live. part of it is because we have so many people from jersey on the server, and i have a sneaking suspicion that many of you play EverQuest with ankle bracelets on but that is beside the point -- there are mechanics to the server that are contributing to the toxicity and i'm not buying the arguments for them.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Aesop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no, everyone pretty much knows where there is gonna be pvp already. in the zones where the loot is, you don't need yellow text to tell you that. pvp happens in oot, lodi windows, pvp happens at druid rings, pvp happens at loot camps and leveling zones.

your argument works agains you because you can't have a covert ganking squad at druid portals either because yellow text lets people know not to port there, lets people know when it's a good time to go to mistmoore to level (lots of yellow text in mistmoore? don't go to mistmoore) you are fooling yourself if you think everyone on this server is constantly searching for pvp. yes lots of people enjoy it, but lots also do not, plenty of people on live enjoyed playing on a pvp server without being a pker.

if you need yellow text to tell you if your "friend" died rather than your friend telling you then they probably are not your friends. it's not necessary at all, and even if i conceded the point that it shows where pvp is happening then my point still stands, and everyone knows its true that people plug incessantly to avoid being yellow texted. it's like the walk of shame.

your conclusion doesn't follow from your premise, i don't see how removing yellow text would make red a "ghost town" anymore than it already is. if you aren't excessively stupid you can find pvp, if I'm spoiling for a fight i can gate to oot, or go look for the guy camping swarm mother. or wait at the commons rings, or any number of places that you know from experience that people inhabit. yellow text hurts pvp just as much as it helps.

Drugs

[Bozena]

Originally Posted by Efwan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In classic there was no yellow text, and it was fine, why? Because population was more than it is today and there were like 20 zones in all of norrath, now we have kunark and velious. There's a reason they added it for Kunark, no yellow text worked on live PvP servers because they had the population blue does right now, there were people everywhere, it was chaos, it was great.

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