Wizard vs Magician epic

[dafier]

On live, years ago...

Speaking ONLY for mage epic:

I achieved 2 mage epics. Both were after they moved the earth staff drop off of Inny to the Arch Mage mini in hate. (that time frame)

Over all I think it's not bad at all. You have to be prepared to camp....days if not many hours for items. And, for the most part you need help from others to take down specific mobs. But as of right now on this server, the era, I think the most difficult parts would be PoS Isle 7 crown (which can be purchased with PP) and Inny for the Earth staff.

Autropos isn't too bad if you have a couple groups and HOPEFULLY he will have the staff in hand.

Anyway, if you have a influence in guild and people are willing to help, then I think this would be not as bad as you think.

Another point.... I heard Inny can only be tagged by certain people from certain guilds. That is a pain .....a big one.

[maskedmelon]

The issues here for Mage epic are due to endgame congestion. Still achievable though. Just need to get 60, grow a beard, put on a diaper and app to TMO. Celsius launch may ease things a bi, followed by revamp which will do the same.

[nuuki]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issues here for Mage epic are due to endgame congestion. Still achievable though. Just need to get 60, grow a beard, put on a diaper and app to TMO. Celsius launch may ease things a bi, followed by revamp which will do the same.

So right now only this one guild has people with the mage epic? So far to be honest I have seen exactly 0 mages with their epics so I would totally believe that.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So right now only this one guild has people with the mage epic?

There are probably 6 guilds that have Innoruuk kills since 12/31/14.

Level up, join one, ???, profit.

At the moment, I'd say the Wizard epic is harder to obtain due to the value of Venril Sathir's drops over Innoruuks. My understanding is that guilds would favor VS over Inny if both were up and they could choose only one.

[nuuki]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are probably 6 guilds that have Innoruuk kills since 12/31/14.

Level up, join one, ???, profit.

At the moment, I'd say the Wizard epic is harder to obtain due to the value of Venril Sathir's drops over Innoruuks. My understanding is that guilds would favor VS over Inny if both were up and they could choose only one.

And the wizard epic doesn't change at all in Velious like the magician one?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the wizard epic doesn't change at all in Velious like the magician one?

You mean availability? We'll many raid guilds will move on to Velious progression, so that may free up old world raid targets some, bit hard to say. It all depends on how much time players have ^^ Just be glad you aren't a ranger ^^

[skootr]

Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the wizard epic doesn't change at all in Velious like the magician one?

Wiz epic will no longer require cazic skin, there will be an NPC in fear that you hand an item to and have to kill (with assistance) post Velious epic quest changes. Still need drop from VS though so that will be the bottle neck. Right now CT skin and VS drop are the bottle necks, though a multi-quest turn in on the skin does happen every so often.

[nuuki]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On live, years ago...

Speaking ONLY for mage epic:

I achieved 2 mage epics. Both were after they moved the earth staff drop off of Inny to the Arch Mage mini in hate. (that time frame)

Over all I think it's not bad at all. You have to be prepared to camp....days if not many hours for items. And, for the most part you need help from others to take down specific mobs. But as of right now on this server, the era, I think the most difficult parts would be PoS Isle 7 crown (which can be purchased with PP) and Inny for the Earth staff.

Autropos isn't too bad if you have a couple groups and HOPEFULLY he will have the staff in hand.

Anyway, if you have a influence in guild and people are willing to help, then I think this would be not as bad as you think.

Another point.... I heard Inny can only be tagged by certain people from certain guilds. That is a pain .....a big one.

Is the change from Innoruuk to the mini really that big of a deal? If a guild is fighting in the plane wouldn't they just kill everything anyway?

[dafier]

Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the change from Innoruuk to the mini really that big of a deal? If a guild is fighting in the plane wouldn't they just kill everything anyway?

In my opinion, yes. Well...my thought process is still thinking Live, NOT P99. Inny back in the day was a VERY tough boss. Yes, guilds could take him down but not many did. I remember Inny being left up for days at a time due to raid forces not gathering to kill him. The minis especially for epic quests were easier to kill and didn't require the overall raid power to get the item.

So, yes. It was a HUGE deal.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my opinion, yes. Well...my thought process is still thinking Live, NOT P99. Inny back in the day was a VERY tough boss. Yes, guilds could take him down but not many did. I remember Inny being left up for days at a time due to raid forces not gathering to kill him. The minis especially for epic quests were easier to kill and didn't require the overall raid power to get the item.

So, yes. It was a HUGE deal.

well, the major reason its a "HUGE deal" is that the mini bosses will have like a 3 day respawn. Inny has 7 with variance.