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Old 09-18-2014, 06:04 PM
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Lol, too hard to keep up?
No. I understand the subject matter. I didn't understand your claim of goalpost moving.
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:05 PM
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Energy is still something. Not nothing.
FFS, follow along now. Virtual particles pop into and out of existence. Proven fact. Their interactions produce DARK ENERGY. I didnt claim energy popped into existence...I claimed VIRTUAL PARTICLES DID.

Man, you are dense.
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:08 PM
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Actually you don't have to teach anyone's religion in science class. You could just teach the cold hard facts about biology or astronomy or any given scientific subject. If you were just plain out teaching science there would be no reason to teach that our eyes either formed by random yet guided mutations, or that God created them. You actually really could just teach how they work to the best and most accurate knowledge available and then let the student make up their mind one way or the other. That is actually what science is supposed to be anyway isn't it?
So were back at that chicken and the egg moment where we're simply arguing weather some of you think science is a religion and educated people try to tell you its an assessment of current knowledge and theory waiting to be debunked by new facts?

Cool, seems like religions only goal is to tear down any attempt at finding out any truth.

If I was going to believe in Christian like religion it would be that Satan won, put god in a prison in the center of the earth where he is tortured and burnt along with anyone who believes in him, and at the opulent golden churches the devil built he preaches his best to get ya'll mother fuckers to rip the world into a frenzy of pain and suffering for all.
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:09 PM
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I have nothing against teaching students what the idea of creationism and religion entails, as long as they aren't attempting to proselytize and mandate the study of religious scripture. I do, however, think it is a good idea to read religious literature as it was our first attempt at many scientific concepts such as cosmology, but that should be done entirely on your own time.
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:10 PM
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No. I understand the subject matter. I didn't understand your claim of goalpost moving.
Even if I explained, I dont think you would understand. Just realize you are stupid and most things in life will be very difficult for you.
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:10 PM
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"You're aware that where we are in the Universe is a very rare and known as clean space right? It's still filled with radiation (see Van Allen Belt)"

What the hell does that have to do with what I was talking about. If you cannot follow along please dont play.
Has everything to do with what you were talking about. See your original post.

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"Nobody is claiming Dark Matter doesn't exist"

Dark matter is completely different from dark energy. Again, you are showing massive ignorance of the subject you are trying to participate in.

Dark matter is matter than doesnt reflect or absorb electromagnetic energy very well. It has NOTHING to do with dark energy.
Where did I ever claim Dark Matter and Dark Energy were the same?

How did Dark Energy create the Universe

How did Dark Energy create Matter

How did Dark Energy create the Energy that caused The Big Bang
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:11 PM
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So were back at that chicken and the egg moment where we're simply arguing weather some of you think science is a religion and educated people try to tell you its an assessment of current knowledge and theory waiting to be debunked by new facts?

Cool, seems like religions only goal is to tear down any attempt at finding out any truth.

If I was going to believe in Christian like religion it would be that Satan won, put god in a prison in the center of the earth where he is tortured and burnt along with anyone who believes in him, and at the opulent golden churches the devil built he preaches his best to get ya'll mother fuckers to rip the world into a frenzy of pain and suffering for all.
Anything and everything is a religion, if you have similar beliefs which extends to more than a belief in God and Jesus Christ, which you seem to have your heart set on this implication, it is considered a religion. Again, facts are facts no matter how much you deny it, it is a religion, just like atheism is even though atheists swear up and down that they aren't.
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:12 PM
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We already went over this. We're not claiming something came out of nothing, we're simply not offering any definitive answers to what came before the big bang because there isn't any evidence or plausible theory that approaches that territory.

We're simply saying that refusing to believe in a magical man that said, "Let there be light!" and created it all is a perfectly rational, sound, and sane stance to take.
I haven't mentioned God or The Bible once

What is the essence of all Matter and Energy
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:14 PM
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Energy is still something. Not nothing.
Exactly
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:15 PM
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FFS, follow along now. Virtual particles pop into and out of existence. Proven fact. Their interactions produce DARK ENERGY. I didnt claim energy popped into existence...I claimed VIRTUAL PARTICLES DID.

Man, you are dense.
In and out of existence?

Not dimensional?
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