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Old 12-09-2013, 05:39 PM
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You didn't read this new study, which offers compelling evidence for its viability and would make a theory, in your own definition.
Actually, r00t, YOU didn't read this new study. There's not a single experiment in the paper. No data, no evidence, just speculation and mathematical descriptions.

"So far we have no conclusive evidence that this is going on," says Giovanni Amelino-Camelia, a physicist at the Sapienza University of Rome who has researched the possibility of such signals.
--from that Scientific American article you linked

r00t, this isn't religion. It's actual inconsequential how the universe began; what's important is that we figure it out. Our understanding and manipulation of nature is what makes us human. Scientists backpedal all the time as old data is reinterpreted or new data is collected. Sometimes it takes a while for someone to have a really great idea.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:08 PM
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Actually, r00t, YOU didn't read this new study. There's not a single experiment in the paper. No data, no evidence, just speculation and mathematical descriptions.

"So far we have no conclusive evidence that this is going on," says Giovanni Amelino-Camelia, a physicist at the Sapienza University of Rome who has researched the possibility of such signals.
--from that Scientific American article you linked

r00t, this isn't religion. It's actual inconsequential how the universe began; what's important is that we figure it out. Our understanding and manipulation of nature is what makes us human. Scientists backpedal all the time as old data is reinterpreted or new data is collected. Sometimes it takes a while for someone to have a really great idea.
You just don't get it, do you?

no big bang --> root was right about no big bang --> root is right about there being a bearded man in the sky --> we all get an afterlife --> we don't need to learn to deal with mortality in a mature way --> we can keep pretending like death is only an illusion
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:24 PM
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hawking already covered this in a paper, a very short paper.

basically, god is inconsequential as the above poster said.

observations must match with results... usually math observations.

if two observations match results, then either can be used.

the observation that god exists BASED on what evidence is put forward is not matching the observations, so you need to pick on.

ill go with science for this one.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:36 PM
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Scientists backpedal all the time
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:12 PM
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And it says there are 2 possible consequences of the theory, neither of which allow a singularity, and thus disproves the entire premise of the big bang
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:14 PM
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People are slow to change. I know it's been indoctrinated in your minds, just like sun revolving around the earth or the earth being flat. But you'll adjust eventually.
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:15 PM
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:17 PM
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:19 PM
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With this new model of the universe having infinite time, I guess the heat death outcome of the universe is disproven as well.
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:20 PM
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It also means that the chances of velious being released approach 1 as the limit of time approaches infinity amirite?
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