Velious Variance Discussion:

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Joroz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

24/7 tracking is brutal for something you have no clue when it will spawn. Random method would favor the pop in tracker or xp groups in the area discovering something is up potentially making raid mobs more accessible to guilds in the right spot at the right time. It would make it extremely hard for guilds to camp out at the next biggest target "due up" when they have no clue which it will be. The so called competition would shift from logging in hoping for FTE to a race on who could mobilize fastest and engage.

you're underestimating just how much free time some people have

24/7 tracking would be brutal, but i'm pretty sure TMO et. al would still do it.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're underestimating just how much free time some people have

24/7 tracking would be brutal, but i'm pretty sure TMO et. al would still do it.

for example, with the current system, i'm pretty sure i could get some of the mains in my guild to camp out in Emerald Jungle for a few days while i track Severilous. i really doubt they'd be willing to leave their mains camped there if there was no set spawn window, though. 100% random is going to absolutely favor the mega-size tracking guild over any smaller guild.

[Nirgon]

Invis pulling in VP, lol clown shoes

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Invis pulling in VP, lol clown shoes

This is actually classic. What guilds on live didn't just invis pull dragons to one of 3 spots? The 2 minute (or was it 90 second?) respawn was brutal for clearing. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess this is why every raid zone fully sees invis after VP.

I don't remember things like timing invis to hit after casts, but tricks like FD + stand + CoS to single pull were very well known in Kunark.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kind of like how VP's theme has been ruined this entire time by not having to clear trash?

Regardless i like the idea of this thread your head is in the right place wanting positive solutions, however it will most likely run the same course as all the other threads with similar intent sadly.

I'll hold out hope for this one.

Comments should be related to Variance and the advantages and disadvantages of that solution in velious.

Personally I think it is no longer viable come Velious, and we just need to demonstrate this to get it removed.

[webrunner5]

Variance makes it that nobody has a clue when mobs pop on paper. The strongest guild wins, plain and simple. What the hell is wrong with that?? You want any half ass guild to get the "Gold Ring"?? Crazy people on here. Get stronger and knock off the top guild. Pretty much like real life is.

[Razdeline]

Sadly I agree with this post and the poster.

[xarzzardorn]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for example, with the current system, i'm pretty sure i could get some of the mains in my guild to camp out in Emerald Jungle for a few days while i track Severilous. i really doubt they'd be willing to leave their mains camped there if there was no set spawn window, though. 100% random is going to absolutely favor the mega-size tracking guild over any smaller guild.

just track certain targets instead of everything? i always have a good laugh when some guild decides to poop sev or inny for a few hours with 30+ people only to have it not pop.

[SCB]

Rotation solves all these problems. You'll laugh at best and cry incessantly at the thought at worst, but you can't deny the fact that there's enough content to rotate on everything without needing a variance.

[Karafa]

^ ?