Nerd Thread about Diablo 3

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude you're not seeing the big picture at all. This is something that should not be a part of games period. And when people were buying shit for real money from Korean websites they had to go out of their way to do it and risked getting banned/suspended for doing so. At least thats how it used to be before Activison took over.

Now its going to be some legitimate operation thats right there in your face as you play. And if you think this auction system for real money is going to benefit the actual players I am going to disagree with that. This system they're putting in benefits two things: Blizzard and companies that are going to bot this game into the ground. I mean at first I was kind of looking forward to this RMAH shit, then I woke up and realized Blizzard hasn't cared about cheating, hacking or botting on their games for some time now. And if thats actually the case it means D3 is going to be botted into the fucking ground nonstop 24/7. Ever since this merger with Activison they have stopped caring about cheating in their games. Just look at or ask anyone who plays World of Warcraft. Nobody gets permanently banned anymore for botting honor in battlegrounds or buying gold. Wanna know why? Because then they lose out on that $15 a month. Back in classic one of my good friends tried using a Glider to level his warrior. Within 48 hours of running it his account got permanently banned and he quit playing the game until BC came out when he decided to start all over from level 1. That shit does not happen to people anymore.

So if that ends up happening, which a lot of people speculate it will, the RMAH isn't going to be some player friendly system that exists to improve gameplay. It's going to exist to tax these companies that bot their games like crazy. Anytime you or I want to go post something on the RMAH to try and turn some cash it's going to suck because the markets just going to be flooded with countless items from programs and not players. Don't forget its going to cost you money to even list an item on their RMAH so if it doesn't sell you lose whatever it cost you to list that item. Now imagine trying to sell your shit among a flood of the same items from companies that can actually afford to just take their items down the second someone undercuts them and repost them.

It's not going to be what everyone thinks. Blizzard should have said fuck you to these websites instead of taking some easy out all just to nickel and dime their customers. It's understandable from a business standpoint but unbelievably disappointing from a customer standpoint because I've been playing their games since Warcraft2 and if they try and put this garbage in the rest of their games or RMAH turns out to be as bad as I think it will I'm done with their product.

Agreed, but their stance on cheating was lightning up in TBC as well, long before the activision merger. Botting for honor would only net you a few temp bans and maybe a slight honor reduction. I should know--I'm a proud AFKaver D= Alterac Valley Cavemen will never die =D

[eastadam55]

What i did was put a cup on the keyboard to keep on making my character move and then just afked for a good hour while i let the bg play out. Putting on num-lock would make you go afk.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone else excited for playing hardcore single player and getting a lag spike? Losing it all trying to headinthesand avoid some sanctioned RMT. Put the RMTers on a different server like the goddamn EQ2 bazaar.

That is, unless people are doing it just to buy status?...awww yeaah.

exactly - whats the point of even trying hardcore if a lag spike can kill you?
back in D2 they had open realms and closed realms, where in closed realms chars were stored server side.
This worked out great for everyone. If you wanted no-cheat-guarantee bnet gameplay - you played on closed realms.
If you were a casual solo-player who only OCCASIONALLY wanted some MP - thats what open realms are for.

I just don't understand why tested and proven system can't be used again???

[purist]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly

exactly - whats the point of even trying hardcore if a lag spike can kill you?

lag spikes killed folks in diablo 2 hardcore all the time

your point?

[FuglyP99]

Didn't read post, don't know if this has been posted, but:

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[eastadam55]

^ shit like thats going to happen all the time. anyone else excited for torchlight 2?

[Hailto]

So after reading this thread, im not sure if some of you are trolling or simply not reading before you post. Those of you saying that RMAH is going to ruin the game because everyone will be ninja'ing your stuff to sell it for cash are just plain wrong. Given the D3 loot system is going to be physically impossible to ninja someone elses items, each time you kill a mob its going to drop a specific loot table for each person, the only way you can loot someone elses items is if they pick it up and drop it back on the ground. While i would agree with you that RMAH would ruin the game if this was a MMO, its NOT, this is essentially a single player pve game that allows you to play with small parties of people. This is not like WoW or EQ where you have to have gear to be competitive for raiding guilds and pvp if it was yes RMAH would completely ruin the game. The fact of the matter is you don't have to play with RMAH'ers at all, its your choice.

The only thing this is really going to affect is the prices for selling that rare item you may come across and don't need. Yes, you're not going to get shit for it because the market is going to be flooded by chinamen, but personally i wasn't going to try to make a living off of playing D3 anyway, so it doesn't really bother me.

I honestly think some of you have the same mentality as the people on P99 who get all bent out of shape if i want to use Luclin graphics when i play. It has zero effect on you yet it still bothers you for some weird reason.

[Doors]

Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It has zero effect on you yet it still bothers you for some weird reason.

You must have missed the part where every other gaming company out there emulates whatever Blizzard does and how this shit is the beginning of some serious garbage you'll be seeing in every video game from here on out.

MMOs of the future are going to have this. WoW will probably have this if its successful (money wise) in D3.

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You must have missed the part where every other gaming company out there emulates whatever Blizzard does and how this shit is the beginning of some serious garbage you'll be seeing in every video game from here on out.

MMOs of the future are going to have this. WoW will probably have this if its successful (money wise) in D3.

Again though, D3 isn't an MMO. I think there is a very big difference in the effect that a RMAH would have on an MMO and a game like D3. We would have to hope that the people developing these new MMO's will realize that if its a persistent world where you are constantly playing and competing with other people, be it for pve loot or pvp you simply can't offer a RMAH because it WILL ruin the entire game, D3 is something different entirely. Thats not to say it might not happen, but i have my doubts that anyone who is sane would put this into a MMO.

[wrxBRAH]

Ultimately it doesnt effect the economy in any way whatsoever than how D2 is now. What I see is extra revenue to get more customer service banning botters/dupers and to drive the chinese companies away because the prices will be bottomed out.

Part of the enjoyment of playing Diablo came from gearing out your character. If you bought all your gear, you were sick of the game in a week. If you worked your way up, it took a few months to gear out a hammerdin for a casual player and thats still not going to change.

Ive botted and it was fun waking up in the morning and feeling like it was Christmas but that bores you in about a week too. I dont see what peoples issue is with how others acquire pixels. If I see someone with bought gear, more power to them.