Pal VS SK end game

[Pint]

Originally Posted by mattydef [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't chain cast DC either. Weaving DC and SV may possibly end up beating out spamming blind with the occasional stun though, but even so, it'll never make a difference in a group/raid scenario unless the SK/Paladin are literally fighting for agro against each other for some odd reason. I'm curious why you think blind is for lower level paladins though since I personally tend to use that the most to generate threat at 59.

It's been a minute but I remember by the time I was tanking the planes blind had to go bc it was more trouble then it was worth and it wasn't necessary. Never had to start using it in velious iirc but I guess if you know it can't land then maybe it's worth it?

[Naethyn]

Wow is that true? Because weapon skill matters a ton for dps and it would explain why paladins consistently parse higher at bis. Is it true that paladins have more piercing skill than even warriors?

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow is that true? Because weapon skill matters a ton for dps and it would explain why paladins consistently parse higher at bis. Is it true that paladins have more piercing skill than even warriors?

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow is that true? Because weapon skill matters a ton for dps and it would explain why paladins consistently parse higher at bis. Is it true that paladins have more piercing skill than even warriors?

It’s an interesting one as Paladin’s didn’t have piercing skill at all (shanking villains ain’t noble) until lances came around (and tbh lances without horses make zero sense, neither does them being 2hp). So some dev just stuck what they thought would be a sensible value while ignoring previous design philosophy that plate melees somewhat shun practice of scabbiness.

I guess paladins and rogues not having overlap in piercing weapons, and lances being noble, justified paladins having a boosted pierce skill?

[Ennewi]

Considering that both of the sk parent classes can equip and skill up with piercing weapons, and one of the pal classes cannot, it would have made more sense to give sks the edge.

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow is that true? Because weapon skill matters a ton for dps and it would explain why paladins consistently parse higher at bis. Is it true that paladins have more piercing skill than even warriors?

Pretty sure war is 240. But I'm at work so can't really check [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[mattydef]

The piercing skill is a bigger deal than it seems since that makes both Lance of Thunder (52/46) and Great Spear of Dawn (53/46) more viable for paladins, and those two are the most accessible high end 2 handed weapons for knights.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by mattydef [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The piercing skill is a bigger deal than it seems since that makes both Lance of Thunder (52/46) and Great Spear of Dawn (53/46) more viable for paladins, and those two are the most accessible high end 2 handed weapons for knights.

True and the added delay doesn't hurt either. Worth mentioning for sure, but still shouldn't have the expectation of being super high on the charts, especially when DPS are asking for spot heals versus damage shields and AEs.

Warriors max out at 240 piercing skill according to the wiki. If correct, that's 15 points higher than paladins and 30/31 points higher than shadow knights.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by mattydef [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The piercing skill is a bigger deal than it seems since that makes both Lance of Thunder (52/46) and Great Spear of Dawn (53/46) more viable for paladins, and those two are the most accessible high end 2 handed weapons for knights.

that weapons with these stats even exist in classic is horrifying

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that weapons with these stats even exist in classic is horrifying

It isn't that bad, because Pal/SK can't dual wield, crit, or have triple attack. Also, SK piercing skill is lower than their other skills, so that means you are doing less damage. Paladins have a higher piercing skill, but their DPS is a bit lower anyway since they don't have a pet or DoTs.