Best duo with a...Necro?

[Zuranthium]

No, it's not just my opinion. It is a very widely shared opinion.

Of course some people have fun playing Rogue. It doesn't mean that level of fun couldn't be higher, though. If people were honest with themselves then they would admit that simply standing behind a mob for hours on end and pressing the backstab button is not nearly the most fun or interesting thing you can do in life. There are several other things unique to Everquest that make playing a Rogue fun, but those things could easily be incorporated into a vastly superior game.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ultimately, it sounds like you're accepting the proposition that Cecily is correct to say that good melee don't have issues chasing feared mobs, merely that you don't find playing such a class fun.

Oh come on Ute, "being a good melee" and "being willing to spend hours on end chasing snared mobs" are not synonymous. It takes no notable skill to emulate jabober, just a willingness to accept soul-crushing tedium as a substitute for fun. I mean, seriously, if I want a playstyle that prevents social interaction with my group I might as well go all the way and make a damned superman, er, I mean bard, and get rewarded for my pain.

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like having a ranger friend tag along for fear kites on FV pirates. Shit probably sucked as the ranger but was good xp.

Did I ever manage to last even an hour at a time in FV? At least it wasn't as horrible as the time you dragged my warrior into an agro-kiting group in DL, IIRC I bailed on that shit to go do laundry after about 10 minutes.

[Murmus]

I made a druid, end of thread

[SamwiseRed]

beastlord goes well with necro

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh come on Ute, "being a good melee" and "being willing to spend hours on end chasing snared mobs" are not synonymous. It takes no notable skill to emulate jabober, just a willingness to accept soul-crushing tedium as a substitute for fun. I mean, seriously, if I want a playstyle that prevents social interaction with my group I might as well go all the way and make a damned superman, er, I mean bard, and get rewarded for my pain.



Did I ever manage to last even an hour at a time in FV? At least it wasn't as horrible as the time you dragged my warrior into an agro-kiting group in DL, IIRC I bailed on that shit to go do laundry after about 10 minutes.

Yeah




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I'm sorry. Roll red and let's fear kite things again, mmmmkay?

[Potus]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

beastlord goes well with necro

Beastlords are kind of cool, if this server goes beyond Velious I'm so making a twank.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Murmus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I made a druid, end of thread

nice

[phacemeltar]

considering that enchanter can probably solo everything without you, duoing with one would be very efficient. not only would the enchanter not have to swap charms to maximize XP, but the necro utility would benefit greatly with fear/snare/heal. also have to mention rune/FD pulls with pacify/charm.

this would be the best duo for skilled players. could decimate any dungeon np with little to no downtime.

[HawkMasterson1999]

Reroll as a chanter. If you're worried about ports, druids will drop what they're doing to come pick you up as long as they get a crack out of it.

Don't underestimate hastes and slows.

Druid track is barely more effective than looking around with the mouse outdoors.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it's not just my opinion. It is a very widely shared opinion.

Of course some people have fun playing Rogue. It doesn't mean that level of fun couldn't be higher, though. If people were honest with themselves then they would admit that simply standing behind a mob for hours on end and pressing the backstab button is not nearly the most fun or interesting thing you can do in life. There are several other things unique to Everquest that make playing a Rogue fun, but those things could easily be incorporated into a vastly superior game.

It doesn't matter how widely an opinion is held, it is still just your opinion. A subjective view being widely held doesn't make it objective or give it any more weight.

There are those that will deviate from it, and that is acceptable. We are not talking about an objective fact, we are talking about who finds what fun. And yes, there are some people that the highest level of fun they can attain is to stand behind a mob, evade off aggro, and backstab to see big numbers and fast moving damage text. If you're that type of person, and that's what you love, fantastic. Go for it.

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh come on Ute, "being a good melee" and "being willing to spend hours on end chasing snared mobs" are not synonymous. It takes no notable skill to emulate jabober, just a willingness to accept soul-crushing tedium as a substitute for fun. I mean, seriously, if I want a playstyle that prevents social interaction with my group I might as well go all the way and make a damned superman, er, I mean bard, and get rewarded for my pain.

No, they are not synonymous, but one of the numerous traits that a good melee character should have is being able to always stay at max melee range against a moving mob to maximize their DPS up-time. And yes, that is trying to emulate a pet, but emulating that perfectly is a way of maximizing your skill. No where do I say how high the ceiling is on being a skilled melee, merely that on the sliding scale from shitty melee to skilled melee, that being able to emulate jabober is the higher end of that spectrum. Ever seen a melee that couldn't? They exist. The high ceiling on a melee may be significantly lower than that of another class, depending on the context of the content being engaged, but that doesn't change that for melee, the skilled melee can chase a mob at max melee range without losing any autoattacks to ranging.

But again, it's soul crushing tedium to you. There are people who find that fun (I know a couple). I used to play MTG, and I found people all the time who loved Red Deck Wins (fast kill red deck), but I couldn't stand it, because it was (relative to control), mindless, soul crushing tedium. There's nothing wrong with finding ways to be skilled at that type of style, but to be, it is soul crushingly boring. But that's an opinion, not an objective fact. I know some people who hate to play control in MTG, and I know people that hate to play necromancers in EQ.