You guys just couldn’t grow up and play nice, could you?

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're going to say select few in aftermath "Broke the rules all the time" at least name them. I don't think people broke the rules all the time... what made you guys so mad? Who hurt you. What happened?"


I understand about corner staring and how that could be the worst. I understand why this was done. My look on it though is... I started raiding on p99 in 2017.. and in those two years, this is the third "Era" of ToV. 1st was FTE race era, 2nd was Instant pull era.. Kind of a decent way to refresh raid content that will be the same for as long as this server operates, which honestly, I kind of hope I can play p99 forever. This is my favorite game, in my favorite era. I hope we continue to improve the Raid experience as long as the server is still operating.

Killing trash is tedious though ugh.. lmao. Hopefully I get some flurry drake loot!

Some people are just bitter, Twochain. I've never had more problems with AM than I've had with anyone else, your guild is just more visible because you're on top which puts you in the spotlight.

But regardless of who gets the most pixels or whatever in the coming weeks, I feel anyone who isn't a puller comes out on top with this change, regardless of guild. Also people who want to camp Shralok Packs probably benefit from this as well =P

Like you said, wall staring is boring as fuck. Killing trash might be tedious but at least it involves doing the stuff we rolled our classes for instead of sitting in a corner semi-afk. I'm looking forward to actually getting to play my class again in a raid environment.

Here's hoping we can all adjust to the changes with minimal bumps and growing pains.

[branamil]

Back in the day it was a big deal which major faction your guild chose. They didn't have the luxury of infinite time to switch back and forth every week. With this change it will be very hard for most raiders to keep their CoV faction, you can't /q after every trash pull.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's hoping we can all adjust to the changes with minimal bumps and growing pains.

the true cruelty of rooting the dragons is that dps monks are now valuable @spyder73

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm looking forward to actually getting to play my class again in a raid environment.

Here's hoping we can all adjust to the changes with minimal bumps and growing pains.

That's the spirit <3

[ajohnymous]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AM has always made it right. AG is the one who constantly tries to dodge concessions. Core and Paradigm Shift are easy to work with.

See this is the problem. From my view, AM tries to dodge concessions and tries to pin them on us. We legit don't pull shady shit and our mentality is owning up to mistakes we make. We love raiding and we hate lawyer questing and want to avoid it. No flame, no joke, and I'm sorry we have to talk like this on RnF let alone on a public forum. I wish our guilds could work together better, but for some reason we can't and I don't know why.

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the true cruelty of rooting the dragons is that dps monks are now valuable @spyder73

Honestly what's really going to boggle some people's minds is now you're actually going to want knights around to handle trash adds or the boss mob's guardians. We just spent the last 4 years crapping on hybrids in the raid scene and now people have to unlearn that mentality.

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by ajohnymous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See this is the problem. From my view, AM tries to dodge concessions and tries to pin them on us. We legit don't pull shady shit and our mentality is owning up to mistakes we make. We love raiding and we hate lawyer questing and want to avoid it. No flame, no joke, and I'm sorry we have to talk like this on RnF let alone on a public forum. I wish our guilds could work together better, but for some reason we can't and I don't know why.

I mean considering how bad the relationship between AM and AW was, I'd say the relationship between AM and AG could be a lot worse.

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by ajohnymous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See this is the problem. From my view, AM tries to dodge concessions and tries to pin them on us. We legit don't pull shady shit and our mentality is owning up to mistakes we make. We love raiding and we hate lawyer questing and want to avoid it. No flame, no joke, and I'm sorry we have to talk like this on RnF let alone on a public forum. I wish our guilds could work together better, but for some reason we can't and I don't know why.

Well when we provide evidence of you guys making mistakes there is always pushback from Hollowlung and Valick. Whenever we were presented with evidence of our mistakes we would make it right. I can go on and on about instances where AG dropped the ball on making it right. The Vulak train you guys only conceded 1 for instead of 2. The constant dropping of wyverns on our pulls. Training our mage during a Zlexak pull and then contesting the Lady N that spawned afterward before you had rezzed our mage.

And don't get me started on the numerous false accusations AG attempts to use against us. You tried to blame us for low hp aggro on a Statue you guys kited past plate house. Your own tagger had a full mallet into it and you guys kited it yourselves but instead of breaking down what your players did wrong to cause it you instead wanted to blame us.

I can go on and on but I've lost interest in the server with the new raid changes. I just am really tired of this false narrative that AG wants to perpetuate.

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean considering how bad the relationship between AM and AW was, I'd say the relationship between AM and AG could be a lot worse.

AG and AM's relationship is as bad as AW/AM was.

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've lost interest in the server with the new raid changes

No no, the new changes are gonna be great! Stick around and try it out! I'm not even kidding, the game is gonna be so much more fun now.