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Old 07-15-2013, 03:27 PM
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is this druid track nerf and rog hide sneak fix classic???

srsly never seen this before
Druid track nerf is classic.

Tracking was terrible in classic even for rangers. The 20 mob limit on it really made it hard to track what you wanted. Rangers would only see new spawns in their tracking range. Druid track was extremely limited due to its range. Brad track was worthless.

The rogue sneak/hide is kinda. There were 4 checks on classic for a mob to determine if they see you are not.

1 - Invis,
2 - IVU,
3 - Hide
4 - Sneak (Sneak only worked when behind a mob)

Each level was coded into the mob UI.

Classic - A lot of mobs saw through invis, few mobs saw through hide.
P99 (Pre patch)- A lot of mobs saw through invis, Extremly rarely did mobs see through hide.
P99 (Post patch)- Hide is like IVU/INVIS which a lot of mobs see through. This is wrong.

On classic through Velious rogues could sneak through a lot of places but they still had to check for that one rare mob that saw through their hide.
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:34 PM
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I've shared my feelings at length with a certain highly respected dev here regarding mob push. We'll see what comes of it.

As far as aggro list, I won't be in game to test it. It's kind of vague but I presume undead train on players correctly and that this is part 1 of many to get rampage etc working in Velious.

As for some of the rest of the things I saw come up, including in this thread..


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Old 07-15-2013, 03:44 PM
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if this shit aint classic

why the fuck did it get patched in
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:06 PM
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if this shit aint classic

why the fuck did it get patched in
Because they are finding threads 3-4 years after the fact which mentions or refer to it being another way then it actually was.

Nirgon is just wrong on many of the things he thinks is classic.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:14 PM
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That's what they keep telling me and it keeps getting patched in after much hemming and hawwing from the EQ: Barbie Doll Version brigade
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:15 PM
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A lot of the annoyances people have are just bad game design that's classic and doesn't get patched out until velious / luclin.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:19 PM
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First of all, check my sig, I played during this era on a pvp server. We were VERY focused on mechanics, esp considering we usually leveled in no drop.

Second, is this really game about items for you? I mean I know it is, but what a fucking waste.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:20 PM
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Game really*

Trying to dota2 here and the amount of dumb requires quick response.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:21 PM
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You talkin to me? There's plenty of awful item design / game design in eq that got corrected later, but because its "classic" we relive it here. Unfortunately, due to this being a volunteer project, the time it takes to keep progressing to velious etc keeps a lot of these annoyances and poor design in game than ever occurred during classic.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:23 PM
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I'm not after you HB
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