A wall of text on the global XP modifier, global OOC

[dreama1]

I have to agree with some of these people here. If it is a pvp server, the focus should be on pvp not pve..

Toxic environment is unfortunately an inherent part of pvp. Leveling on a pvp server should be secondary not primary focus.. if people want to make friends they can go to blue..

[Squire]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the problem, and its one that increasing the xp bonus in the first place caused. Now that we've been poisoned with EZ mode, a lot of us feel like we'll suffer without it. Exp bonus is like a drug we're now addicted to, and people are afraid to quit it because they fear the withdrawal and reality.



I grouped a bit, when people would ask me. And I leveled my cleric from around 34 - upper 40s during low pop, grouping quite a bit. I was helping to lead a leveling guild as well, and a lot of my time was spent PLing people.

But that's all beside the point. We're discussing the xp bonus here, not my qualifications as a gamer.

People will leave when the exp bonus is reduced, and this is why I suggested not even telling you guys and doing it slowly over time. It's really the best option, when you consider how much we love drama.

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go away.

[pharmakos]

don't change global OOC and EXP rates at the same time

change one variable at a time or you won't know which of the two attempted fixes actually worked.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the problem, and its one that increasing the xp bonus in the first place caused. Now that we've been poisoned with EZ mode, a lot of us feel like we'll suffer without it. Exp bonus is like a drug we're now addicted to, and people are afraid to quit it because they fear the withdrawal and reality.



I grouped a bit, when people would ask me. And I leveled my cleric from around 34 - upper 40s during low pop, grouping quite a bit. I was helping to lead a leveling guild as well, and a lot of my time was spent PLing people.

But that's all beside the point. We're discussing the xp bonus here, not my qualifications as a gamer.

People will leave when the exp bonus is reduced, and this is why I suggested not even telling you guys and doing it slowly over time. It's really the best option, when you consider how much we love drama.

The exp bonus brought the population from about 20 to 150. What is the problem? The resists still suck on this server and Velious is about to come out. Why would they focus on exp bonus when it has been one of the few catalysts to increase the population?

[Derubael]

Not completely removing the XP bonus, dramatically lowering it and adding a group bonus.

Not completely removing global OOC, modifying the way it works to cut down on the bullshit.

Level range +/- 4

Will take a little while to see a positive effect, but it will definitely be there. 400% xp bonus is like a poison for the server.

Smedy, swish, and our other europals, I am sorry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You guys are the only ones this will really hit hard, and it will take longer for you to see a positive result because of your playtime.

inb4 you're gonna kill the server, etc.

[Tassador]

Exp bonus is at 400? I just thought I was fucking good at leveling ;-(

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by dreama1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to agree with some of these people here. If it is a pvp server, the focus should be on pvp not pve..

Toxic environment is unfortunately an inherent part of pvp. Leveling on a pvp server should be secondary not primary focus.. if people want to make friends they can go to blue..

PvP is an addition to EQ which is primarily a PvE game, even here. That's like saying you shouldn't fix the body on a car, only focus on the neat shiny rims u got.

EQ isn't supposed to be a Player (singular) vs anything game either. It's supposed to be a team oriented Multiplayer game. So looking at Player vs Environment is a dumb way to even play. Your doing it wrong. Fast ez solo exp is enabling this.

[Labanen]

Finally had time to read through the thread. Derubael i agree with you on the ooc part.

But the xp bonus is needed to stay in... it may not need to be all the way up at 400 % or whatever you say its at atm. But when the server is this top heavy, despite it being far from classic, then the game in fact doesnt start until 52. And we need to bring new players up there.

In an ideal world, your arguments for removing the xp bonus are valid, but this server is far from ideal. 95 % of the server pop is 51 or higher, i even think fearie made it past 50. And I dont think it will help us to drag out the pain before new players can interact with the others. Its a multiplayer game, even more than blue server is imho.

I like a couple of the other ideas proposed, mostly hotzones, giving the few lowbies an increased chance to meet would help. There is a good chance though that any hotzone will be unrest 2.0, ei. the place where all the lvl 20 rogues with epics are camped.

I strongly disagree that it has to get worse before it can get better, it WAS much worse and it has been alot better. Since i was running around on eurotime with 3-4 others on the entire server we re up to 10-20 times as many. Ride some of the good things that helped us get back up there instead of butchering them... we do not want single digits again.

Also, Stasis, you re too angry calm the fuck down. Wouldnt matter if you gave people the recipe for eternal life or the cure for cancer, but when its delivered with so much anger, noones gonna read it.

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[LulzSect]

-+4 lvl rng is going in???