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Old 12-06-2017, 12:29 PM
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You can go the Physical Therapist rout if you have insurance. A lot of them basically just turn into personal trainers.

Your best bet is a credible personal trainer or some kind of exercise class. Yoga might add some muscle mass if you want to avoid barbells. But muscles are best developed with barbells IMO. But you need someone to make sure your form is good.

In the meantime Id just get comfortable with the squat motion because it seems most people that aren't active need to work on it.
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Old 12-12-2017, 09:50 PM
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But muscles are best developed with barbells IMO.
disagree i only use barbell for rows, outside of dumbbells. anything else that can benefit from a barbell like shoulder press or incline pressing is done by smith machine.

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Old 12-12-2017, 11:24 PM
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disagree i only use barbell for rows, outside of dumbbells. anything else that can benefit from a barbell like shoulder press or incline pressing is done by smith machine.

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Basically the opposite of what you said is true. Smith machine is good for inverted row only. Otherwise its better to balance the weight with your muscles.
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Old 12-13-2017, 02:46 AM
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Basically the opposite of what you said is true. Smith machine is good for inverted row only. Otherwise its better to balance the weight with your muscles.
Basically reading comprehension. Dumbbells require even more control and balancing but start getting dangerous past 80lbs.

Not everyone's bodies grow the same and since dumbbells require full body growth of multiple muscle groups just to be able to safely handle them I can understand the need for your kind to promote buttbell incline presses
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:58 PM
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disagree i only use barbell for rows, outside of dumbbells. anything else that can benefit from a barbell like shoulder press or incline pressing is done by smith machine.

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Do you know about iso vs compound movements? I do a lot of iso workouts and I'm pretty big; or as big as I want to be, but I see some skinny fuckers at the gym who are way stronger. I'm not sure if it's age, genetics, or me doing the wrong workouts.
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Old 12-13-2017, 04:43 AM
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Do you know about iso vs compound movements? I do a lot of iso workouts and I'm pretty big; or as big as I want to be, but I see some skinny fuckers at the gym who are way stronger. I'm not sure if it's age, genetics, or me doing the wrong workouts.
There are different types of muscle fibers in the body, and different people have them in different ratios. This is one reason.

Another reason is a lot of people interested in body building don't stretch off properly after strength training; stretching off allows muscles to grow more densely and prevents muscles from balooning when they repair themselves (but a lot of body builders aspire for a baloon man look).

Finally, improving strength and improving appearance though linked are two different objectives. Often someone working on their muscles for appearance will try to develop relatively small/weak 'vanity' muscle groups for visual impact, such as their pecs or biceps, whereas someone interested in actual strength that is for use and not show will not obsess over making gains in these areas.

I'm sure there are more reasons for leanies having more strength versus big meanies, but these are some of the reasons I recall from when I studied some physiology modules like 14 years ago. I suspect some of my knowledge is now outdated/wrong so I'd love to be corrected / updated!
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I'm pretty happy with my body fat percentage; I drop kilos like panties when I'm ill so like to have that resevoire. Prolly should get back on the body weight exercises; when I was still in greece they had awesome park gyms (and the weather to use them). Being back in the UK exercising outside is unattractive, except for hiking where you can wear all weather gear.
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