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Old 09-04-2011, 08:51 AM
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Not quite sure I follow, but lets talk about the numbers then.

If they ban every one of those accounts, it's a good deal of potential profit that they may or may not lose.

If they don't ban any of them ever then P99 gets branded as a "classic EQ server that you can cheat on to get ahead", turning what i'd imagine would be even more people away from the server/turning away current good standing people that already play here.

Really they did the best thing in that aspect by allowing the one time '"grace period" for said accounts. Shows current/potential players that cheating isn't tolerated, while keeping the players of those 365 accounts around for more potential profit.
Looking at it as 365 accounts were all cheaters is one thing.

However, there is no telling how many where actually flagged because they left it on when they logged into p99 and never used it (meaning they didn't cheat with it). These were supposedly getting overturned. So the 365 accounts suspended is most likely not 365 suspended accounts for cheating, just 365 flagged accounts as possible cheaters (and some where).

Without actually having the numbers and knowing how many got over turned and what IP's had the most accounts as actual cheaters and so forth it's all speculation.

I don't think it is as bad as you say it is, and it's probably not as light as I say. I am sure it wouldn't hurt the server to see 100-150 actual cheating people leave the server. Especially seeing how they have said before that even if no one played on the server they would continue to develop p99.
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:53 AM
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Both you and Skope have valid points. I suppose it's utter speculation at this point.

You know what they say though, money is the root of all evil. Wonder how many of those item dupers were selling in game plat for real money on one of those trade sites.
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:56 AM
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Both you and Skope have valid points. I suppose it's utter speculation at this point.
no it isn't. let's get down to business...

Rogean/Nilbog, is there any chance you'd punish these people far more severely than the current punishment that's been handed out? This will seal any chance of me coming back and will mean i delete my forum account as well. So do me a solid and let me know, you'll be saving me and others quite a bit of time.
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:02 AM
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no it isn't. let's get down to business...

Rogean/Nilbog, is there any chance you'd punish these people far more severely than the current punishment that's been handed out? This will seal any chance of me coming back and will mean i delete my forum account as well. So do me a solid and let me know, you'll be saving me and others quite a bit of time.
Banning the accounts outright would have been pretty harsh on some of the people that were flagged due to a simple mistake.

Banning the accounts of actual cheaters would be justifiable.

Suspending the accounts of flagged people is fine imo, just ban the ones that were actually cheating.

A suspension is a fine punishment for someone who forgets to leave his cheats running when switching servers, it isn't for someone who willingly chose to "cheat the system" for personal gains.

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I'd like to have seen "365 accounts were flagged as cheaters. These accounts have been suspended until we can review them and determine the severity of the infraction. At the end of the (insert time frame here), all accounts deemed to have broken the (insert server cheating/hacking rule) will be banned permanently."
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Old 09-04-2011, 09:04 AM
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Banning the accounts outright would have been pretty harsh on some of the people that were flagged due to a simple mistake.

Banning the accounts of actual cheaters would be justifiable.

Suspending the accounts of flagged people is fine imo, just ban the ones that were actually cheating.

A suspension is a fine punishment for someone who forgets to leave his cheats running when switching servers, it isn't for someone who willingly chose to "cheat the system" for personal gains.
there's ways of distinguishing the two, but instead a single punishment was considered and it was thought to be fair and lessen the workload... welp, it isn't. you've caught sight of the giant gorilla in the room that's been here since server's creation and instead of pointing to the door he was told to come back in 2 weeks.

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