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Old 11-17-2023, 01:08 PM
Sonolin Sonolin is offline
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Yes, charm turns them into a pet (you get a pet bar just like mage/necro/etc.). However, there is a chance charm will randomly break and then you have the potential of 2 enemies on your hands so it is definitely more to worry about than just root rotting.

Also, if you don't know there's a command "/loc" that shows your location on the map. Make sure to use that before you die and you can always find your corpse. It is recommended to make this a hotbutton so you can press/click it in game.

Good luck!
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Old 11-17-2023, 02:10 PM
hobowillie hobowillie is offline
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Yes, charm turns them into a pet (you get a pet bar just like mage/necro/etc.). However, there is a chance charm will randomly break and then you have the potential of 2 enemies on your hands so it is definitely more to worry about than just root rotting.
So from the wiki, the first spell shows a duration of 3s to 5min (up to 20min). Is there any indication I'm about to have a wild ride as it wears off? Is there any penalty or diminishing returns on recasting? I mean, I'll obviously figure it out as I go but just thought I'd ask the question to have a little heads up. haha

Also, is there any way to know the level of a mob I'm targeting since the wiki says "up to level 24" or is this just by feel/experience? Should I shoot for mobs that con as "a gamble" until I'm around 24 myself?

And to tie it all together, do higher level animals have lower duration or is it completely random?

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Also, if you don't know there's a command "/loc" that shows your location on the map. Make sure to use that before you die and you can always find your corpse. It is recommended to make this a hotbutton so you can press/click it in game.
Yeah...I figured this out. I was perplexed for a bit trying to figure out how 14-year-old me knew what to do here because I didn't remember spending so much time doing a walk of shame. But I remember dying...a lot. Once I remembered the /loc command, I got it bound and hit it periodically just to help orient myself since my Sense Heading is still garbage.
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Old 11-17-2023, 09:38 PM
bcbrown bcbrown is offline
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So from the wiki, the first spell shows a duration of 3s to 5min (up to 20min). Is there any indication I'm about to have a wild ride as it wears off? Is there any penalty or diminishing returns on recasting?
It's random and the only notification you get is when it breaks. The probability of a break is mostly the relative level difference between you and your pet. On some targets it'll break like 4-5 times in a minute occasionally. It's best to try to charm targets that are low-blue. If. your pet is weaker than what it's attacking, it's easy to swing the balance through a DS on the pet and a dot on the target. It's harder/less efficient when the pet is stronger than the target, and the goal should be to break charm when both are at similarly low health.

To minimize the risks when charm does break, it's best to have both your pet and the target snared, and the target rooted. But due to short spell durations and small mana pool, this doesn't really become feasible until the low-mid twenties. Until then, just keep sow up and a zoneline nearby so you can bail when a fight goes sideways.

I recently re-leveled a druid, focusing on charming as much as possible. East Karana is possible at around 14, but I found it pretty tough, and went to Oasis instead till about 20. In Oasis I could either group or charm kill, and I found grouping to be generally faster XP. 20-22ish or so I went back to EK, then moved to gator pit/gator alley in CT. This can take you close to 30 I think.
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Old 11-20-2023, 04:37 PM
Sonolin Sonolin is offline
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So from the wiki, the first spell shows a duration of 3s to 5min (up to 20min). Is there any indication I'm about to have a wild ride as it wears off? Is there any penalty or diminishing returns on recasting? I mean, I'll obviously figure it out as I go but just thought I'd ask the question to have a little heads up. haha
Not really much indication, just gotta stay on your toes. Keeping them snared helps (ensnare at lvl 29, lasts a lot longer).


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Also, is there any way to know the level of a mob I'm targeting since the wiki says "up to level 24" or is this just by feel/experience? Should I shoot for mobs that con as "a gamble" until I'm around 24 myself?
Not really sure, but I think the client should give you an error if you try to charm something too high of a level. However, you shouldn't really be charming stuff that's white or yellow IME.

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And to tie it all together, do higher level animals have lower duration or is it completely random?
Yes, it seems that charm breaks way too often on yellows especially. Lower blues seem more consistent than higher blues as well I think. The best way to do this is to charm a blue mob and sick it on a white or even yellow mob. Make sure they are both losing HP at around the same rate. Keep the target mob rooted or root them when they get low, call your pet back to ensure he doesn't die and either hide or cast invis vs. animals (use ghazugi ring if you have that). The charm will break and you can kill both of them for more exp.



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Yeah...I figured this out. I was perplexed for a bit trying to figure out how 14-year-old me knew what to do here because I didn't remember spending so much time doing a walk of shame. But I remember dying...a lot. Once I remembered the /loc command, I got it bound and hit it periodically just to help orient myself since my Sense Heading is still garbage.

Yea you can bind a hotbar button to your movement keys, helps a lot with leveling sense heading.
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