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Old 05-07-2023, 05:06 PM
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The only int caster epic that is difficult in the Velious revamp era is Magician.

1. Wizard is pretty easy, especially if your guild does VS, can buy a gnarled staff MQ as well

2. Necro has a couple bottlenecks but really it's just the slimeblood, if your guild is doing golems it's not a big deal

3. Enchanter has VT, VD, and the hate essence. Otherwise it's soloable pretty much

4. Magician is a fun quest and well designed with a few rare pieces, but it's not that difficult besides the Earth staff, which makes it unobtainable for 95%
So Wizard is the easiest of the four? Is it easier than average among all the possible epics, or about average?

Compare it to say the Druid and Ranger epics.
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Old 05-07-2023, 05:11 PM
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So Wizard is the easiest of the four? Is it easier than average among all the possible epics, or about average?

Compare it to say the Druid and Ranger epics.
I think the wizard epic is perhaps one small step harder than the druid epic or Swiftwind. Earthcaller would be much harder. But you can't get the wizard epic unless you're raiding with a guild that kills VS (or buy an MQ of it, but I doubt those are sold often, because any guild that can kill VS...has wizards in it).

You also need to do a step in Fear with a small raid force; and kill Phinny over and over until you get the staff. Maybe budget on 10-20 Phinny kills.

Have you raided yet, Loadsy?
Just seems like you have a lot of questions that would be answered pretty quickly if you joined a casual raiding guild like KWSM or any Sanctum guild, or literally any guild on Green.
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Old 05-07-2023, 06:34 PM
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I think the wizard epic is perhaps one small step harder than the druid epic or Swiftwind. Earthcaller would be much harder. But you can't get the wizard epic unless you're raiding with a guild that kills VS (or buy an MQ of it, but I doubt those are sold often, because any guild that can kill VS...has wizards in it).

You also need to do a step in Fear with a small raid force; and kill Phinny over and over until you get the staff. Maybe budget on 10-20 Phinny kills.

Have you raided yet, Loadsy?
Just seems like you have a lot of questions that would be answered pretty quickly if you joined a casual raiding guild like KWSM or any Sanctum guild, or literally any guild on Green.
I joined KWSM, my goal now is to work towards 55 so I can get in on some planar raids. Forgot how frustratingly slow level 45 was.
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I joined KWSM, my goal now is to work towards 55 so I can get in on some planar raids. Forgot how frustratingly slow level 45 was.
Ok, good!! Have fun. Levels are king. I still think The Hole is underused on Green. It’s still the best ZEM despite ZEM percentage changes, and there are enough mobs for 15+ groups.
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Old 05-07-2023, 06:55 PM
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Ok, good!! Have fun. Levels are king. I still think The Hole is underused on Green. It’s still the best ZEM despite ZEM percentage changes, and there are enough mobs for 15+ groups.
Assuming it's not camped often the Hole entrance with the earth elementals is one spot I'm considering around 49, as are wyverns in CS.
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Old 05-08-2023, 06:37 PM
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So Wizard is the easiest of the four? Is it easier than average among all the possible epics, or about average?

Compare it to say the Druid and Ranger epics.
Wizard is definitely the easiest, you only need to collect three different staves, and you can MQ any of them. It wouldn't be that hard at all to just get one and buy the other two.

How it compares to other epics? Probably about on par with cleric or monk, so definitely at the top of the list for easy epics. I think rogue and shaman may be the only ones truly easier? All of the epics are totally achievable by casual raiding and/or buying MQ's, besides bard,warrior, and mage. It's easier than druid or ranger, neither of those are particularly difficult, only the SEoC from Hate limits the ranger epic iirc.

1. Rogue
2. Shaman
3. Monk
4. Cleric
5. Wizard

After that I'm not sure what order, but I'd rank the hardest in this order:

12. Bard
13. Warrior
14. Magician
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