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[baakss]

There were no epics at the start of Kunark. They got introduced like a couple months before Velious. It was a general example from blue.

My point is that some unclassic changes (such as nerfing epics to be 46+) were made because of how we've acted/played the game.

In the case of the Manastone/Jboots/Guise camp, the toxicity would be horrendous. List may seem bad, but it would be worse otherwise because of the lengths we'll go to get our way.