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Old 04-10-2018, 09:53 AM
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More alarming in this incident is the fact that Europa will petition just about anything for pixels. How much more bullshit can people take from these self-proclaimed "server good guys?" What kind of brainwashing propaganda is in Europa's guild chat? Why don't them rename their guild to North Korea?
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:56 AM
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More alarming in this incident is the fact that Europa will petition just about anything for pixels.
There is a lesson for all of P99 right there.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:09 AM
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More alarming in this incident is the fact that Europa will petition just about anything for pixels. How much more bullshit can people take from these self-proclaimed "server good guys?" What kind of brainwashing propaganda is in Europa's guild chat? Why don't them rename their guild to North Korea?
Pretty sure the group of players that were petitioned were asked if they wanted to concede the mob before petition goes in. But they decided to roll the dice with the server staff rather than work it out, again. Resulting unexpected raid suspension extension for their guild.

I find it funny that time after time when Awakened gets slammed they still like to blame others for it. Maybe it's time to check the brainwashing happening in Awakeneds /gu after all?
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:23 AM
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Pretty sure the group of players that were petitioned were asked if they wanted to concede the mob before petition goes in. But they decided to roll the dice with the server staff rather than work it out, again. Resulting unexpected raid suspension extension for their guild.

I find it funny that time after time when Awakened gets slammed they still like to blame others for it. Maybe it's time to check the brainwashing happening in Awakeneds /gu after all?
According to your supreme leader Cuckasi, the petition from Europa was for stalling, which would've been false accusation in the first place, and not the reason AW received an extra seven days for. How Menden spared Europa at least 20 days for crying-wolf is beyond me.

Get off your moral high horse Europa, you are not a virgin anymore.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:50 AM
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According to your supreme leader Cuckasi, the petition from Europa was for stalling, which would've been false accusation in the first place, and not the reason AW received an extra seven days for. How Menden spared Europa at least 20 days for crying-wolf is beyond me.

Get off your moral high horse Europa, you are not a virgin anymore.
Petition was indeed about stalling, made by a regular Europa member. So it wasn't even a raid dispute petition since only guild leadership can post such petition. Petition was targetting the group of players that were stalling, not the guild. And they were given fair chance to work it out before petition went in.

About stalling, I'm not sure since I wasn't there and haven't seen any complete footage of the kill, but I have been told Vaniki was kited over 10 minutes at the entrance before it was engaged at brought under 100% health while about 2 groups of Europa members were watching it happen. Maybe post the complete video of the kill including the pull if 10+ mins isn't correct? And I'm not sure what is the case with Vaniki and stalling rules. But maybe this quote from Mendem will enlighten his opinion about stalling in general (original post: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...69#post2657569):

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Menden told me today that kiting/stalling non-raid mobs has a limit, in the range of 10 minutes or so. Another guide (Cylok? I'm bad with names) told me that someone can stall Lodi indefinitely if they'd like, so who knows I guess.

Great guy, by the way.
Delaying a kill(kiting), 5-10 minutes is fairly reasonable, it all depends on the situation. Like I said before, don't kite a mob around waiting for your raid force for more then 5-10 minutes if you get FTE, be ready to engage. And if you are watching someone else do this, be sure they are truly delaying, don't let the pixelfever get the best of you.
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