Another mass shooting, biggest death toll in US History

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're very ignorant about Islam and even the Arabic language, because Allah is how you say God in Arabic

Got to that point... no that's ignorant .. or misleading.
What is it? "there is only one god and allah is god"? It's not acceptable to say "there is only one god and god is god". So no, that's misleading, at least it is now for you as I released you from ignorance on that point anyway. You can talk down to me all you want about your supposed command of Arabik so you think you know better, but even if that were of any importance you still miss the logic which nullifies any supposed relevance of an assumed superior language. Logic transcends language.

The usage of allah was contributed to the moon in pre-islamic pagan times. If you note the symbols on about every islamic flag, it contains the moon, or the crescent moon, of which was worshiped. It's simply a political ideology hidden inside a hybrid religion of ancient paganism.

If you are at a computer, in the West, and actually hold this as your religion, feel fortunate you are here and can escape such a religion without loss of your life as happens in other countries, even by your own family. In the West we call that a cult, or the actions thereof. Hassan Chop!
Though you've just likely taken RP too seriously. Don't tell anyone at your mosque you play EQ.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know if this site is credible, but apparently they were holding the door shut.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/suspi...ng-more_062016

There are groups who want to disarm the American people and they can't do it without an excuse. But who knows if its related to this attack. Although there's alot of red flags, especially when the media focuses on a single incident while shootings happen every single day.

Yeah I already mentioned that here yesterday at post #98

I'm waiting for this witness to resurface somewhere (though the FBI prolly has him now). In this situation, one or two witnesses would have credibility due to the panic and confusion as most there would be spellbound over and not notice, or be dead. ABC news only showing their bias it would seem, wanting this guy to be made out as just some loose cannon on his own. But it turns out this guy is well connected, and yes possibly had help.

As for gun grabs, every situation no matter if a false flag joint operation or whatnot, leads to calls for gun grabs by the left. As the left says "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste". That's a macabre play on Churchill words "you never want a good crisis go to waste".

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saudi Arabia is an ally of the US. The rulers of that country are wahhabist sectarians though so it makes sense. The Ka'ba is a pagan temple anyway. The real temple is the Dome of the Rock.

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[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why don't urban deaths count?

I didn't say they don't count, but that they count everything. The narrative being it's the guns fault. So if two gang bangers kill eachother over drugs, it's the guns fault and all guns need to be confiscated from those that keep them for defense from the drugged out gang bangers. And if the gang bangers murder a lawful citizens family and he is so broken he kills himself with a gun, it's the guns fault. It's always the guns fault, though the people that want to take our guns don't want their own guns taken away as well, and wont.

Fact of the matter is, you cant rely on the government to protect you, not when it matters. You can't wait 4-20 minutes for a cop, and he might even just shoot you instead, be it intentional or unintentional as the wait may lead you to becoming a hostage situation which is volatile. I trust you enough to defend yourself Pok3&, and the smarts to not go after me considering I'm armed. I'm speaking hypothetically of course.

Which is more important, liberty or safety?

[Pokesan]

okay urban deaths count but less so

thanks alot daywolf

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

okay urban deaths count but less so

thanks alot daywolf

No you are inverting. Um... urban deaths are counted, but not distinguished from others, and I'm speaking more of population densities and the magnet of criminals to such areas. Just as much as suicides are counted, just all thrown into the pot and blamed on guns. Or say if you found yourself on the defensive end of a home invasion robbery, and you shot the guys before they shot you. Well that is just tossed in as a statistic of a gun crime etc.

After all, I grew up around LA. F-ing gunshots all the time, shootings and deaths. I was shot at a number of times as well, as well as knives pulled on me, assaults on me, chased by gangs, even chased by stupid cops. I got the hell out during what they called "white flight". Where I live now, it's only just starting to creep in (too many people now), that stuff again, and soon I'll move again to somewhere with low population density. Cities suck, period. Want less gun crime? spread out and own guns.

[Pokesan]

two paragraphs and i have no idea what your point is

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

two paragraphs and i have no idea what your point is

All raw data is (or may be) correct. But interpretations are often wrong. There is no place for one raw all encompassing figure in this matter, as is often presented as for the purposes of ideological gain.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No you are inverting. Um... urban deaths are counted, but not distinguished from others, and I'm speaking more of population densities and the magnet of criminals to such areas. Just as much as suicides are counted, just all thrown into the pot and blamed on guns. Or say if you found yourself on the defensive end of a home invasion robbery, and you shot the guys before they shot you. Well that is just tossed in as a statistic of a gun crime etc.

After all, I grew up around LA. F-ing gunshots all the time, shootings and deaths. I was shot at a number of times as well, as well as knives pulled on me, assaults on me, chased by gangs, even chased by stupid cops. I got the hell out during what they called "white flight". Where I live now, it's only just starting to creep in (too many people now), that stuff again, and soon I'll move again to somewhere with low population density. Cities suck, period. Want less gun crime? spread out and own guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZY03tEIDKA

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

urban deaths = 3/5ths of a death?