Clothesing Threads

[Derubael]

the bda nagafen debacle has nothing to do with this

^ how is it not a similar situation? BDA jumped on a mob that Taken had FTE on, and ended up losing a Nagafen. Chest has been pointing out how the situations are similar and should demand similar punishment since the decision came up.

If we're going to draw parallels and precedent and cite that as written-in-stone rules, then BDA should have been suspended for a week - a full suspension - just like FE got when they jumped a TMO FTE.

Here's another similar situation:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=152382

IB was suspended for... jumping an FTE. Granted, this was a "kill steal" but the actual rule violated was the same one BDA violated in that Nagafen dispute. Why is BDA not calling for themselves to be suspended for a week? Precedent, which we are putting so much stock in, states they should sit out for at least that long.

[Argh]

Lets keep this thread focused on threads please.

[Derubael]

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^new threads for an old thread.

sry argh.

I need to stop reading RnF.

[arsenalpow]

My issue with your handling of the Naggy situation is three fold.

1) Sirken said the issue was done and over. A mans word is supposed to mean something. Just because Unbrella has a micro dick doesn't mean he should be able to harangue you enough to raise the issue from the dead after the case was closed.

2) You show no respect whatsoever. I actively dislike you and I used to actively dislike Sirken but we've buried that hatchet. We had a long talk and ironed out some issues. You still seem to have a very big hard on for BDA. You can say otherwise but ball don't lie. You kept focusing on BDA in regards to the Sev situation unnecessarily when the real issue as it's been said 100x is someone that didn't have FTE killed the dragon. It's inconsequential as to why other people were on the hate list. They needed to get off the list and wait for the reset.

3) BDA is suspended for Class R Naggy for helping to kill a FFA Naggy. Don't cross the streams. TMO blatantly trains BDA in Fear. It was signed off by Unbrella a fucking guild leader. We have 1080p fraps of the encounter and the result is a slap on the wrist. BDA kills 20% of Naggy and now we're out a class R Naggy which puts our next encounter something like 4 months away. I feel like BDA has been singled out numerous times for whatever reason. The first suspension with Trak under completely murky rules, then this Naggy, and now singling us out for Sev when we did nothing wrong.

I want, just like everyone wants, clear and consistent rulings using precedence as a guide. I want a logical thought process and fair rulings across the board.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My issue with your handling of the Naggy situation is three fold.

Couldn't tell if this was a clothing pun or not. If so, touche.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couldn't tell if this was a clothing pun or not. If so, touche.

Nailed it

[Locust]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ how is it not a similar situation? BDA jumped on a mob that Taken had FTE on, and ended up losing a Nagafen. Chest has been pointing out how the situations are similar and should demand similar punishment since the decision came up.

come on man, BDA "assisted" Taken on the last 20% of their Nagafen kill for fun...
naggy was about to die and a few of our members decided to help finish it off
(other accounts suggest Taken was wiping and we secured the kill for them, which is why we are serving our sentence)
either way, Taken got the loot they deserved for winning FTE

we weren't trying to kill steal naggy or interfere with their raid. BDA gained nothing from helping Taken other than getting to punch a dragon in the butt

chest is upset about it because it happened in FFA and we were punished in class R

my point is that situation and any other past situation doesn't change what happened during Severilous on sunday

Taken did not win the FTE race, and killed the dragon anyway

breaking a well defined rule that the rest of us were adhering to

that's why the entire raiding population, not just BDA, is upset

i'm not trying to argue the decision you guys made

[Glenzig]

These lawyers must be making a killing!

[Cecily]

When you see a dragon, don't attack it. Ask a GM for help.

[Locust]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you see a dragon, don't attack it. Ask a GM for help.

when you steal cookies from the cookie jar, immediately tell your mom so you receive no punishment, is pretty much what i've learned from all of this.