Discussion on 20 minute engage rule for undead bard (trak guts) when next patch comes

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Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How were white and green scales overlooked?

I don't mean here. I mean back in the day. Did they just "forget"? There were enough bards and warriors back then to put in UDB and Nortlav, this would do little to increase access to epics for Bards/Wars.

Not sure. Bards were quite vocal about the lack of access to white dragon scales. Considering most either had to stay sub 53 for Vox, lead but not participate in a pick-up Vox raid or go all the way to 57+ to be able to stand up against Gorenaire.

This Concert Hall poster had a decent rant about it here. Also here, here, and lots of people traded for it. People started coming up with theories like this one or this one that there was an unsolved quest or unfound NPC that would provide the white scale, but none were found (whether that was on purpose or a mistake by Verant who knows).

Hoshkar starts dropping green scales in about 3 months (June 2001). So warriors do get a boost in that department.

Thott had this to say:

Level 60, red scale off Talendor, white scale off Gorenaire.

Desbarolis wrote:
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These quest's were made for roughly level 50+ players. They were all started in response to the paladin epic, which was originally geared for paladins of nagafen and vox level ranges (and higher), which includes level 47+ paladins.


Paladins have a new epic as well, and it requires the original FA. Verant has stated on numerous occasions that epic weapons are intended to be level 60 weapons, not level 50.

You're 49. That means that for 11 levels you will be fighting in progressively harder areas, and will see weapons drop, progressively better weapons...and all of them will be massively inferior to your current weapon.

I don't see how anyone can not see this as broken.

Unfortunately, there isn't any easy way to ensure lower level people can't get higher level people to help them get an item.

I guess if Verant really wanted the epics to be level 60 weapons, they should have made the end quest NPC respond only to level 60 characters.

The epic quest would then be get all the pieces together, the same as it is now....and level to 60. "You are not yet experienced enough to control a weapon of this power...go, learn more, and return."

For those that got the weapon before 60, good for you, I wouldn't expect anyone to do anything else. It's a great weapon. But you have to admit, it's not right.

--Thott
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