Senate fails the country again.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ scripted.

Also repealing the 2nd amendment will never happen and the bill that they are trying to pass doesn't even come close to beginning to chip away at it.

They give you freedom to have your tinfoil hattery, I just wish they also gave the rest of us freedom from this kind of tinfoil hattery as well.

Restricting peoples' rights to own firearms is chipping away at it, and it's exactly why this wasn't passed. Background checks while nice would solve nothing, and making certain firearms illegal chips away at the 2nd amendment.

Watch the video of that guy's fake petition and see how dumb people are. Granted it's southern California but the level of stupid is still higher than expected.

Originally Posted by Alendria [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why I believe amendments to bills in Congress should not be allowed.

Sometimes amendments to bills are done on purpose anticipating the bills will fail. It gives one party ammunition against the other. This bill for instance lets the democrats argue that the GOP is against even such sensible legislation as expanded background checks. Makes them look good and the GOP look bad; and the American people are dumb and naive enough to fall for it because they won't pay attention to the whole bill and what caused it to fail in the first place. They'll just see "omg no expanded background checks, GOP is teh evil."

[Alendria]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes amendments to bills are done on purpose anticipating the bills will fail. It gives one party ammunition against the other. This bill for instance lets the democrats argue that the GOP is against even such sensible legislation as expanded background checks. Makes them look good and the GOP look bad; and the American people are dumb and naive enough to fall for it because they won't pay attention to the whole bill and what caused it to fail in the first place. They'll just see "omg no expanded background checks, GOP is teh evil."

Yes, sadly amendments are used to manipulate public opinion like this as well, just another reason that they need to be abolished.

I do concede that background checks probably do need to be expanded somewhat, but I'm not delusional into thinking it would've helped all those kids. I've filled out the form so many times that I practically have it memorized and can fill it out with my eyes closed. 90 second phone call later or about 10 clicks of a mouse depending on the dealer, swap some cash, and I'm out the door with a new shiny.

[Black Jesus]

there is no gun show loophole, FFL dealers still have to perform background checks at a show you're talking like .0001% of private transfers which can happen anywhere not just at gun shows its shit like when dad gives his gun to his son god yall are dum and brainwashed by the liberal media

[Millburn]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Restricting peoples' rights to own firearms is chipping away at it, and it's exactly why this wasn't passed."

I love how people think the 2nd amendment was made for personal firearm use. It was established to protect the states right to form and maintain their own militia.

[Swish]

There's a great vice documentary on a well known American militia that moved to Alaska, some smart guys in there. If shit ever hits the fan, they'll be ready...til then, people just think they're nutjobs with guns.

[Hasbinbad]

lol guns are so primitive.

They've shifted the frame to keep you morans stuck there.

If you're absolutely stuck on the idea of putting a hole in someone, you can make better/faster/quieter projectile weapons at home with a minimum of tools, youtube, and a nearby hardware store. Not to mention 3d printers & the darknet.

putting a hole in someone tho .. not the best way to ensure their condition change.

[Millburn]

If they're moving their whole families and livelihoods for the sake of being ready for government oppression then yeah...they are nutjobs with guns.

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a great vice documentary on a well known American militia that moved to Alaska, some smart guys in there. If shit ever hits the fan, they'll be ready...til then, people just think they're nutjobs with guns.

Lol, yes we should be oh so thankful for some random doomsday prepper whackos in Alaska who will surely save us all in the future.

Swish, I sometimes wonder if you're retarded.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Millburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they're moving their whole families and livelihoods for the sake of being ready for government oppression then yeah...they are nutjobs with guns.

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, yes we should be oh so thankful for some random doomsday prepper whackos in Alaska who will surely save us all in the future.

Swish, I sometimes wonder if you're retarded.

But we need them, in Alaska, with their AR15's protecting us, down here from drone strikes. It's the perfect plan!

[Swish]

You know what? I really can't gauge the American psyche and never have been able to [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tons of you are religious and give millions to the church every year, tons of you are gun owners who want to keep hold of the guns you own...

...but those guys up in Alaska, they're whackos, they're idiots. They're staying off the grid. Terrible idea, obviously paedophiles, devil worshippers and Taliban sympathizers.

I keep an open mind, if that makes me retarded then cool - I'm dribbling and screaming while I'm doing my colouring in books [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]