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Old 02-14-2012, 06:15 PM
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:17 PM
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Go read the founders please.
Since you're so well read, perhaps you could give us a brief analysis of the Federalist Papers?
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:23 PM
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Federalist Papers didn't call for creation a monolithic power but for the prevention of confederacies in a fledgling nation that could easily be taken over by foreign powers familiar with divide and conquer military strategy. A strong central government was the entire reason they fought against the King, hence the mottos of the revolutionary war:

"No Kings but King Jesus"
"That government which governs best, governs least"
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:23 PM
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youse a twinkie homie you soft in the middle say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:15 PM
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Federalist Papers didn't call for creation a monolithic power but for the prevention of confederacies in a fledgling nation that could easily be taken over by foreign powers familiar with divide and conquer military strategy. A strong central government was the entire reason they fought against the King, hence the mottos of the revolutionary war:

"No Kings but King Jesus"
"That government which governs best, governs least"
I was hoping for HBB's analysis, since he is so well read on the founders' intents.

But I think everyone already knows he hasn't read them.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:34 PM
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Lol HBB trying to act tough
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:44 PM
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:16 PM
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The writers of the Federalist papers would be considered extreme right wingers by today's standards, and they were the left wingers of the day. Madison had begun to regret the formation of the federal government within a decade of its inception, as it became clear that those in power would abuse it, and that no matter how clearly they wrote the Constitution to restrain the federal government, some jackass would come along and rule lawyer his way into interpreting the commerce clause as giving government the right to preside over every single commercial activity.

The problem with OWS is that they have never given a better alternative to the problems they have identified. "Stop corruption" and "end corporate influence in Washington" are not courses of action. I get the feeling that the vast majority of them would gladly give the government more power under the guise of solving these problems, whereas centralized power is the root of these problems.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:22 PM
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You've degraded yourself to unsolicited RL threats now?

Ah how the mighty have fallen.

Any time you cunts wanna dance, I invite you to come get some. You know where I live, so quit talking shit and have your canary ass cash the check your crocodile mouth is writing.

Fucking scrub. You must be really mad to stoop to this shit.

Honestly, I may not be the baddest ass in the world, and you might win a fight with me. But it's going to be a costly victory, and I won't be the only one going to the hospital.

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Old 02-14-2012, 09:44 PM
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Madison had begun to regret the formation of the federal government within a decade of its inception, as it became clear that those in power would abuse it, and that no matter how clearly they wrote the Constitution to restrain the federal government, some jackass would come along and rule lawyer his way into interpreting the commerce clause as giving government the right to preside over every single commercial activity.
Haha so true, they shove everything we dont want through the commerce clause


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