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Old 07-21-2023, 12:11 AM
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Old 07-21-2023, 12:15 AM
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I can't tell if you guys are just trolling him or actually think +25 STR is a good idea in Velious, which it's not. Stop it. Please. Don't screw people's characters up.
Lol. If 25 "wasted" stats screw up your character once solidly geared, maybe you're really bad at playing EQ?

OP, just make the rogue and ignore this thread.
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Old 07-21-2023, 12:24 AM
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Old 07-21-2023, 12:35 AM
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This is great. Over 200 posts and I still can't get passed the character creation screen lol
You got your answer though.

If you know for sure you'll reach 60, raid, and plan to keep building the character with the best items in the game, 25 sta

If you are a minmaxer and you can't stand the idea of having suboptimal starting stats even if for day to day performance it won't matter, 25 sta

If you aren't sure whether you'll reach 60 or raid, or if you aren't sure whether you want to main your rogue, just take the 25 str

Personally I would just 25 str it but I wouldn't main a rogue, I'd consider him an alt, so that's why. I'd also make him a gnome though. Gnomes are cool.

Everyone just wants you to have fun, but this is the p99 forums, wars about starting stats are classic
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Old 07-21-2023, 03:12 AM
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Lol. If 25 "wasted" stats screw up your character once solidly geared, maybe you're really bad at playing EQ?

OP, just make the rogue and ignore this thread.
Honestly I thought everyone on this thread just enjoys bickering over minutiae.
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Old 07-21-2023, 09:04 AM
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Honestly I thought everyone on this thread just enjoys bickering over minutiae.
I’ve had many sleepless nights thinking about EQ. Never about my starting points. They matter just like the racial perks but won’t limit anyone doing anything outside maybe a weird piece of equipment or a solo BoTB pvp competition.

IMHO if someone wants to start a min-max thread to debate these things I’m all for that. Seldom do we ask the OP more questions about definitions and goals to try and give relevant advice.

I can give a number of scenarios where a gnome rogue wouldn’t be strength capped. I can argue for hps if a serious raider. I can argue for more dex for quicker avatar procs. That’s fun and relevant for ME but kind of selfish if someone is asking a genuine question for them…
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Old 07-21-2023, 09:09 AM
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Lol. If 25 "wasted" stats screw up your character once solidly geared, maybe you're really bad at playing EQ?

OP, just make the rogue and ignore this thread.
It's a waste.
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Old 07-21-2023, 10:27 AM
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It's a waste.
It’s a rogue. The warmbody dps of EQ.

Any time you are not str capped at 60, for any reason (even outside raids), it’s 23 attack. That’s two Aura of Battles or almost a SoN.
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Old 07-21-2023, 10:48 AM
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If you don't have buffs at 60 it's not that important.


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It’s a rogue. The warmbody dps of EQ.

And tanks and pullers and bumpers. If your conception of a rogue is limited to half afk DPS, that might be more a reflection of your own ability at this game.
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Old 07-21-2023, 11:12 AM
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It’s a rogue. The warmbody dps of EQ.
nah mayne rogues are amazingly good in VP
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