Spawn Rate of Named Mobs on Hunter/Forager Cycle

mwatt · #1 10-04-2011, 08:54 PM

Named mobs on the Hunter and Forager Cycle spawn far too infrequently. On Live, one could typically spend an evening in TT and get muliple nameds to pop over time. On P99, one can typically spend an evening there and see not a single named to pop after killing Hunters and Foragers the entire time.

I hesitated to post this because all I have is annecdotal evidence. But I have heard people other than myself lament this situation recenty as well. I think it's time to at least raise the issue.

Kevlar · #2 10-04-2011, 10:02 PM

I'll second what he said. I've spent over a week there killing foragers non-stop and have yet to pop a named.

**nilbog** · #3 10-05-2011, 11:18 AM

I show 10% spawn rate for rares. On both cycles.

1/10 isn't bad when the npcs instant repop after death no?

mwatt · #4 10-05-2011, 04:00 PM

One out of every ten spawns being a named mob would seem approximately right to me, though it may have even been more frequent on Live (named mobs were simply not very rare). In any event however, a one in ten spawn rate does not seem to be happening in actual practice - despite what apparently resides in the pertinent database column/record.

I understand that actual practice would only approach one in ten over time - but something seems to be wrong. I've been there multiple times and killed enough mobs to have for sure seen mulitple nameds spawn, but I've never even seen one spawn.

Kevlar · #5 10-07-2011, 06:34 PM

Yeah seems like the RNG is stuck or something, just like on the frenzied in LGuk!

Ungriim · #6 10-13-2011, 01:29 AM

Just happened upon this thread accidentally. Its not 10%. I know it shows 10% but its not. Its about 3-4%. I solo'd the forager cycle for over 2 entire levels as a bard, got about 90 people seb keyed, like 10 iks bps, few masks few daggers (aka I been on those cycles way too much) it averages about a named every 30 kills. Can contact me in game if you need more info on either of the cycles =)

Szeth · #7 12-21-2011, 12:01 PM

Man supremacy, RnG is slaying you pretty hard.

**nilbog** · #8 12-21-2011, 01:37 PM

Here was my test of 10 repops.

forager cycle / hunter cycle

forager throkkok
forager hunter
forager hunter
forager hunter
bloodeye hunter
forager hunter
forager hunter
forager hunter
hangman hunter
forager hunter

Ungriim · #9 12-21-2011, 07:39 PM

Whats funny is that hunter usually pops a named more frequently from what Ive seen. FML. Still dont believe it tho~ I literally got over 100 people keyed and did it for sooooo long. From my experience a common set of pops was about 36(ish) foragers, a named, like 2 foragers, a named, like 20 foragers a named, repeat. So i guess thats like 5% spawn rate not 3% like i thought? Iunno, I may just have shit luck but doing that cycle for so long I would think it would even out.

**nilbog** · #10 12-22-2011, 06:29 PM

I've been running a debug test for a few hours. Letting Trakanon zone repop and making sure none of the npcs were breaking the forager cycle. The spawn data collected is perfect for posting here though. This should be enough data to determine if there is an issue with spawn % rarity.

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[Thu Dec 22 14:43:53 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:44:09 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:44:26 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:44:42 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:44:58 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:45:14 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:45:31 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:45:47 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:46:03 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:46:19 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:46:35 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:46:52 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:47:08 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:47:24 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:47:40 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:47:57 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:48:13 2011] Hangman  
[Thu Dec 22 14:48:29 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:48:45 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:49:01 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:49:18 2011] Dreadlord Fanrik  
[Thu Dec 22 14:49:34 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:49:50 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:50:06 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:50:23 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:50:39 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:50:55 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:51:11 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:51:28 2011] Silvermane  
[Thu Dec 22 14:51:44 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:52:00 2011] Flayhte  
[Thu Dec 22 14:52:16 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:52:32 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:52:49 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:53:05 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:53:21 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:53:37 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:53:54 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:54:10 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:54:26 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:54:42 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:54:58 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:55:15 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:55:31 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:55:47 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:56:03 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:56:20 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:56:36 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:56:52 2011] Silvermane  
[Thu Dec 22 14:57:08 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:57:24 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:57:41 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:57:57 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:58:13 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:58:29 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:58:46 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:59:02 2011] Flayhte  
[Thu Dec 22 14:59:18 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:59:34 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 14:59:50 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:00:07 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:00:23 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:00:39 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:00:55 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:01:12 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:01:28 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:01:44 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:02:00 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:02:17 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:02:33 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:02:49 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:03:05 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:03:21 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:03:38 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:03:54 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:04:10 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:04:26 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:04:43 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:04:59 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:05:15 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:05:31 2011] Commander Sils  
[Thu Dec 22 15:05:47 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:06:04 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:06:20 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:06:36 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:06:52 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:07:09 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:07:25 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:07:41 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:07:57 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:08:13 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:08:30 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:08:46 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:09:02 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:09:18 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:09:35 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:09:51 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:10:07 2011] Harbinger Dronik  
[Thu Dec 22 15:10:23 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:10:39 2011] Champion Thenrin  
[Thu Dec 22 15:10:56 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:11:12 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:11:28 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:11:44 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:12:01 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:12:17 2011] Champion Thenrin  
[Thu Dec 22 15:12:33 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:12:49 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:13:06 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:13:22 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:13:38 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:13:54 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:14:10 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:14:27 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:14:43 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:14:59 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:15:15 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:15:31 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:15:48 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:16:04 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:16:20 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:16:36 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:16:53 2011] Crusader Zoglic  
[Thu Dec 22 15:17:09 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:17:25 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:17:41 2011] Squire Glik  
[Thu Dec 22 15:17:58 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:18:14 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:18:30 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:18:46 2011] Squire Glik  
[Thu Dec 22 15:19:02 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:19:19 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:19:35 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:19:51 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:20:07 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:20:24 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:20:40 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:20:56 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:21:12 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:21:28 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:21:45 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:22:01 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:22:17 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:22:33 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:22:50 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:23:06 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:23:22 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:23:38 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:23:55 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:24:11 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:24:27 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:24:43 2011] Crusader Zoglic  
[Thu Dec 22 15:24:59 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:25:16 2011] Keeper Lasnik  
[Thu Dec 22 15:25:32 2011] Bloodeye  
[Thu Dec 22 15:25:48 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:26:04 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:26:21 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:26:37 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:26:53 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:27:09 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:27:25 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:27:42 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:27:58 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:28:14 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:28:30 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:28:47 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:29:03 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:29:19 2011] Dreadlord Fanrik  
[Thu Dec 22 15:29:35 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:29:51 2011] Champion Arlek  
[Thu Dec 22 15:30:08 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:30:24 2011] Titail Sinok  
[Thu Dec 22 15:30:40 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:30:56 2011] Commander Sils  
[Thu Dec 22 15:31:13 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:31:29 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:31:45 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:32:01 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:32:17 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:32:34 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:32:50 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:33:06 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:33:22 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:33:39 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:33:55 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:34:11 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:34:27 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:34:43 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:35:00 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:35:16 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:35:32 2011] Keeper Sepsis  
[Thu Dec 22 15:35:48 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:36:05 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:36:21 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:36:37 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:36:53 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:37:10 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:37:26 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:37:42 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:37:58 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:38:14 2011] Flayhte  
[Thu Dec 22 15:38:31 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:38:47 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:39:03 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:39:19 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:39:36 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:39:52 2011] Champion Arlek  
[Thu Dec 22 15:40:08 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:40:24 2011] Thruke  
[Thu Dec 22 15:40:40 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:40:57 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:41:13 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:41:29 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:41:45 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:42:02 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:42:18 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:42:34 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:42:50 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:43:06 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:43:23 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:43:39 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:43:55 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:44:11 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:44:28 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:44:44 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:45:00 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:45:16 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:45:32 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:45:49 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:46:05 2011] Champion Thenrin  
[Thu Dec 22 15:46:21 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:46:37 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:46:54 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:47:10 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:47:26 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:47:42 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:47:58 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:48:15 2011] Harbinger Dronik  
[Thu Dec 22 15:48:31 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:48:47 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:49:03 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:49:20 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:49:36 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:49:52 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:50:08 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:50:24 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:50:41 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:50:57 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:51:13 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:51:29 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:51:46 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:52:02 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:52:18 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:52:34 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:52:51 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:53:07 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:53:23 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:53:39 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:53:55 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:54:12 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:54:28 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:54:44 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:55:00 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:55:17 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:55:33 2011] Champion Arlek  
[Thu Dec 22 15:55:49 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:56:05 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:56:21 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:56:38 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:56:54 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:57:10 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:57:26 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:57:43 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:57:59 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:58:15 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:58:31 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:58:47 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:59:04 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:59:20 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:59:36 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 15:59:52 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:00:09 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:00:25 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:00:41 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:00:57 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:01:14 2011] Klok Denris  
[Thu Dec 22 16:01:30 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:01:46 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:02:02 2011] Silvermane  
[Thu Dec 22 16:02:18 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:02:35 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:02:51 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:03:07 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:03:23 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:03:40 2011] froglok forager  
[Thu Dec 22 16:03:56 2011] Champion Arlek  
[Thu Dec 22 16:04:12 2011] Champion Arlek  
[Thu Dec 22 16:04:28 2011] froglok forager