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Old 03-13-2022, 04:05 PM
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Question Ice Giants camp

There are three Ice Giants in Everfrost Peaks zone. One towards the back near the entrance of Permafrost Zone entrance and two further to the west; one in the north tower and one in the south tower.

Is there two "camps" one for the "Back" near Permafrost and the other for the "Front" for the two towers?

Or is there a total of three camps due to the area being considered outdoors.
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Old 03-13-2022, 04:08 PM
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There's player convention, and then there's server-mandated rule. Typically players treat all the giants, or at least the front two, as a single camp.

However, as an outdoor zone technically each player can only claim a single giant spawn ... IF there are three players all wanting to do ice giants at once.

See https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=325349

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Open Outdoor Zones can be anything from Western Wastes, Karanas or West Commons. There are no staff recognized camps for this zone type outside of single spawn points. Examples of single spawn types might be Ocean of Tears Ancient Cyclops, Iceclad Ocean Stormfeather, or Qeynos Hills Hadden. Though, any single spawn point can be claimed, that is the only spawn you can hunt (if being contested). If you are to claim this point you must get aggro/First to Encounter (FTE) within a reasonable amount of time.
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Old 03-20-2022, 03:38 PM
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However, as an outdoor zone technically each player can only claim a single giant spawn ... IF there are three players all wanting to do ice giants at once.

See https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=325349
Incorrect and only implemented due to the overwhelming population on Green at launch. Wasn't true in classic and certainly not true on Blue and in fact, is contrary to the very link provided posted by Rogean "You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it.."

For example: Specs in oasis is 1 camp, not 7 or 8. (forget # of mobs in the top of the tower) Considerate players often do share mobs not in close proximity or if there are more than they can handle, etc.

It's past time for GM's to revise this broken rule on Green and return to the real rules, as previously written and understood since EQ launch. We're teaching new Guides the wrong method.
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Old 03-20-2022, 04:48 PM
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We're teaching new Guides the wrong method.
You seem to be a little confused as to who makes the rules around here. Hint: it's not us players.
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Old 03-27-2022, 12:49 PM
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Incorrect and only implemented due to the overwhelming population on Green at launch. Wasn't true in classic and certainly not true on Blue and in fact, is contrary to the very link provided posted by Rogean "You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it.."

For example: Specs in oasis is 1 camp, not 7 or 8. (forget # of mobs in the top of the tower) Considerate players often do share mobs not in close proximity or if there are more than they can handle, etc.

It's past time for GM's to revise this broken rule on Green and return to the real rules, as previously written and understood since EQ launch. We're teaching new Guides the wrong method.
You’re actually wrong. The one spawn outdoor thing was a rule well before Green ever existed.

You’re right that most players will respect the specs as one camp. However they don’t HAVE to. Technically someone could come and claim one of the spawns as theirs if they wanted to
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Old 03-13-2022, 04:44 PM
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Almost any time I pass the giants they are being shared by 2 or more players. I assume soloing, but perhaps in a group with each player tending a spawn of their own.
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Old 03-13-2022, 08:23 PM
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Ya ppl do them for static afk pp. So they usually don't fight.

Red99 is where to go if you want all three.
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Old 03-13-2022, 10:44 PM
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Almost any time I pass the giants they are being shared by 2 or more players. I assume soloing, but perhaps in a group with each player tending a spawn of their own.
Yeah I agree almost never seen one person monopolizing all the giants. I feel like it’s pretty much convention that they are multiple camps
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Old 03-13-2022, 10:33 PM
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I've noticed it's pretty rare that someone throws the book at me and demands to split the front giants, but it does happen once in a while. Like Loramin said they're technically separate camps.
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Old 03-13-2022, 11:30 PM
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Leveled my mage from 45-55 on IG camp. Such an awesome camp to simultaneously level a COTH mage while farming a shit ton of wort pots for your primary raider.

It’s a gentleman’s agreement, like most camps in EverQuest should be. When I was level 45 I could hardly do the one back giant. By the time I was level 52 or so I could pretty easily keep all three down but if someone ever showed up they’d always take the back one and I would message them when I was leaving and ask if they’d like the fronts.

In all that time I only had one bad experience where someone just blatantly attempted to steal the giants I was camping and a GM had to intervene. If someone really wants to lawyer quest they can claim one of the front giants as a camp and that is their right per server rules.
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