Project 1999

Go Back   Project 1999 > Blue Community > Blue Server Chat

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-04-2014, 05:56 PM
loramin loramin is offline
Planar Protector

loramin's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,471
Default Is mapping multiple buttons to a gamepad chearing?

It's been my impression that it is against the P99 rules to map your joystick/gamepad/keyboard buttons to multiple button presses (or mouse movements/clicks). In other words, if you map the "A" button on your controller to "2", that's ok, but if you map it to "2, 3, wait 5ms, 2 again" that's illegal automation.

However, I've scoured the rules and the forums, and the closest I can find to any sort of official response on the issue is this post from Rogean, which was directed more towards log parsers:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...90&postcount=5

Can anyone point me to a GM post, line in the rules that I missed, or anything like that that shows that multiple-button mappings are prohibited? Or allowed for that matter; either way I'd just like to have some sort of clarification that I can point people to in the wiki.
  #2  
Old 06-04-2014, 05:57 PM
quido quido is offline
Planar Protector

quido's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,519
Default

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
__________________
Jack <Yael Graduates> - Server First Erudite
Bush <Toxic>
Jeremy <TMO> - Patron Saint of Blue
  #3  
Old 06-04-2014, 06:08 PM
Yumyums Inmahtumtums Yumyums Inmahtumtums is offline
Planar Protector

Yumyums Inmahtumtums's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,090
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Lmao
__________________

Yumyums Inmahtumtums - 59 Shaman
Lemonspoon Icebeaner - 52 Enchanter
Yumyums Inmahtumtums - 60 Enchanter
  #4  
Old 06-05-2014, 01:30 PM
Messianic Messianic is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,122
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
+5 internets
__________________
Heat Wave - Wizard
Messianic - Monk
Melchi Zedek - Necro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumbledorf View Post
I'll look into getting it changed to The Secret Order of the Silver Rose of Truth and Dragons.
  #5  
Old 06-05-2014, 02:41 PM
Ahldagor Ahldagor is offline
Planar Protector

Ahldagor's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
__________________
  #6  
Old 06-06-2014, 02:35 AM
Clark Clark is offline
Planar Protector

Clark's Avatar

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Metropolis
Posts: 5,148
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
lol
  #7  
Old 06-06-2014, 05:31 AM
fastboy21 fastboy21 is offline
Planar Protector

fastboy21's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,179
Default

if it is cheating i certainly hope that the server staff would articulate it clearly before beginning to issue bans for it. from past experience, i have no reason to doubt that they would make every reasonable effort to inform the community of the expectations before handing out consequences.

having said that, i do not know of or even heard of a single person banned for the type of macro'ing that I believe the OP is discussing...that doesn't mean necessarily that it is or isn't against the rules, its just an observation from playing here for a long time.

everything in this thread is anecdotal or hypothetical, so nothing short of a GM jumping into this conversation is going to make the rules any clearer than they already are.

my only other suggestion is that if you are actually concerned about something you are doing or thinking about doing in game being a bannable offense then you might have more luck sending a PM to a GM/Guide for your specific situation and question. more likely to find out the information that is relevant to you that way than by a threaded discussion in the general forums.
  #8  
Old 06-04-2014, 05:59 PM
Champion_Standing Champion_Standing is offline
Planar Protector

Champion_Standing's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,127
Default

I think if you are mapping buttons to things that are at least relatively possible with in game hotkeys you are fine. If you are trying to make a macro that automate something for you while you are AFK then you would be cheating.
  #9  
Old 06-04-2014, 06:47 PM
loramin loramin is offline
Planar Protector

loramin's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,471
Default

Thanks for that Jeremy, made me smile.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I think if you are mapping buttons to things that are at least relatively possible with in game hotkeys you are fine. If you are trying to make a macro that automate something for you while you are AFK then you would be cheating.
Right, that makes perfect sense. What I'm really looking for though is somewhere where someone like Rogean or Derubael said "this ____ is 'relatively possible' and allowed, but this ___ is a macro/cheating" so that I can put a reference to their quote the wiki.

If no GMs answer this thread, and no one knows of an existing place where the GMs spell things out, then I suppose I can assume that means there is no rule against multiple button mapping. However, it'd be really nice if it were clear exactly what is/isn't against the rules (thus my asking).

Ultimately what this all boils down to is, I don't want to encourage some n00b to map multiple keypress-es to a gamepad button if that's going to get the n00b banned, but at the same time I don't want to scare the n00b out of doing something that the GMs are perfectly ok with either.
  #10  
Old 06-04-2014, 07:11 PM
fastboy21 fastboy21 is offline
Planar Protector

fastboy21's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,179
Default

not sure how it is preventable...everyone has programmable keyboards and mice these days.
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:13 AM.


Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.