Game Mechanics: patch PoFear trash mobs back to classic (i.e. no summoning)?

[DoucLangur]

I know this was intentionally done because PoFear seemed to be too easy to the raid guilds here but:

It *was* classic behaviour (and still is the same on live) that trash mobs in the Plane of Fear could not summon players. This was a key element of the zone, allowing good players to kite in there. I would like to see it patched back to this behaviour.

I also think it is not a good idea to make smaller/lower end guilds suffer from a beefed up PoFear breakin just because the high end guilds at the time could break it with ease. It is really a fact that all encounters are much easier nowadays because there's so many veterans playing, and we're approaching mobs in a much different way than we used to back in the days.

Please consider making PoFear truly classic - maybe with the revamp, when golems get the good loot?

Cheers

Slozem

[Nizzarr]

wait what?

[nilbog]

Okay so all npcs > 50 can summon. Not all npcs in fearplane are > 50.

I do believe there was something to this though... I remember being summoned in hateplane, but not fearplane.

Does anyone else have more information?

[DoucLangur]

I can tell you that I soloed PoFear breakin on SOEs first progression server The Combine with an untwinked level 54 necro, while the server was in Velious mode: on September 8, 2006

I can provide you with my logfile from back then - but of course it is only Progression, so it's not 100% classic.

I also know on live I was never ever summoned by trash in PoFear.

Kind Regards,

Slozem

[melkezidek]

Only thing I remember that would summon was the Big stuff like CT, Golems, Draco. Everything else just swarmed ya. Also I remember one mob that would port some one to a random spot near by that cuased bad things as well.

[DoucLangur]

Originally Posted by melkezidek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also I remember one mob that would port some one to a random spot near by that cuased bad things as well.

That are all scarelings, and it's implemented here already correctly.

[Heebee]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay so all npcs > 50 can summon. Not all npcs in fearplane are > 50.

I do believe there was something to this though... I remember being summoned in hateplane, but not fearplane.

Does anyone else have more information?

Here's a screenshot of mine from Fear prior to Kunark's release showing an Amygdalan Knight summoning:

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I seem to remember that when the zone was first opened and there was no level restriction on entry to the zone, there was no summoning either. I believe this was corrected at roughly the same time as the level restriction change to 46+.

[Glitch]

Besides, it's so fun to get warped across the zone by a level 51 scareling and have it summon you back immediately.

[DoucLangur]

Originally Posted by Heebee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a screenshot of mine from Fear a few months prior to Kunark's release showing an Amygdalan Knight summoning

Okay - I just checked my log. Apparently I did not fight Amygdalan Knights when soloing PoFear breakin. And with your reminding us, I do seem to recall the knights summoning. I know for a fact that the entrance mobs didn't - and pretty sure Amygdalan warriors do not either.

So mobs that do not summon are definitely:
- spinechiller spiders
- scarelings
- shiverbacks
- fetid fiends
- boogeymen
- turmoil toads
- samhains
- tentacle tormentors

Mobs that I am unsure of:
- frightfingers
- gorgons
- phantasms
- glare lords
- worry wraiths
- nightmares
- phoboplasms
- Amygdalan warriors

Mobs that do summon:
Amygdalan knights

[Heebee]

Originally Posted by DoucLangur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay - I just checked my log. Apparently I did not fight Amygdalan Knights when soloing PoFear breakin. And with your reminding us, I do seem to recall the knights summoning. I know for a fact that the entrance mobs didn't - and pretty sure Amygdalan warriors do not either.

So mobs that do not summon are definitely:
- spinechiller spiders
- scarelings
- shiverbacks
- fetid fiends
- boogeymen
- turmoil toads
- samhains
- tentacle tormentors

Mobs that I am unsure of:
- frightfingers
- gorgons
- phantasms
- glare lords
- worry wraiths
- nightmares
- phoboplasms
- Amygdalan warriors

Mobs that do summon:
Amygdalan knights

As Nilbog stated in his post, summoning is based on level. Monsters over level 50 will summon. The level for these monsters varies. For example, a Scareling might spawn as level 49, and not summon. However, it may also spawn as level 51 and summon. Summoning in the Plane of Fear is working as intended.