Internal Consistency

[Grumph]

With his recent contribution to the raid petitions channel, I believe Jutebox has finally outdone himself.

A fair expectation for good faith accusations is: prosecutions must be internally consistent.

To present otherwise smacks immediately of dishonesty.

Simply put: You can't charge someone with Man-Slaughter at the same time as Murder. Take a moment to think through this. I know, the underlying concept takes some effort to unfold. OK, ready? Murder requires intent. If you also bring a charge of Man-Slaughter you're now forcing double-jeopardy. And providing a bald-faced breach of the reasonable-doubt standard. If prosecution is themselves unsure of intent - why would they bring the charge in the first place? Justice is not wrought by throwing shizzle on the wall and hoping something sticks. We all know this in our heart: "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime!" is a turn of phrase because its appalling to any standard of human decency.


Now I'm sure you're wondering. Has Jutebox presented contradictory accusations?

Originally Posted by tacomagradd

When approached about the train, Vanquish leadership refused to discuss the matter, and insisted that all parties should play on.

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Jutebox accuses Vanquish of refusing to discuss or concede in the moment based on evidence provided at the time that showed...

Originally Posted by remen

All the videos you guys posted show a train coming in and killing a bunch of your members first, an assist on the train being on a member of your raid, and a person in your voice chat saying that you guys should have cycled camp and that some people didn't.

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But this statement by a member of Vanquish can't be credible can it? It wouldn't be possible for Jutebox himself in his own petition to confirm this exact timeline would it?

Originally Posted by tacomagradd

We then posted additional footage (video 3) that clearly shows Klaz FDing his train onto our raid.
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While all videos contribute to our described fact pattern, the third video is the smoking gun. It provides the exact evidence that many Vanquish asked for...

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I believe a plain-text reading of this petition unequivocally presents contradictory accusations.

Are there other contradictions? I leave that as an exercise to the reader. But having established a clear lack of internal consistency in Jutebox' petition I would like to go a step further and ask: is there an alternative premise by which Jutebox maintains personal consistency?

Originally Posted by tacomagradd

Its playing politics - something I freely admit to doing

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I don't think it takes a stretch of the imagination to understand what 'playing politics' means. What is real-politique if not deception? What clear-headed citizen would refute that politicians are liars on the whole? And political games? Manipulation.



I have, and I'm basically alone in this, proposed a Public Oath Against Toxicity and Mind Reading.

And let me be clear. What I am aiming to demonstrate are straight line conclusions drawn from public statements made by Jutebox. There's no need to interpret some sort of 'dog-whistle.'

Read his words. Not his mind.

When someone tells you their plan is to lie.

Believe them...