why luclin sucks

[bubur]

slippery slope, though i am of the opinion that eq didnt lose its shit in luclin.. but in ldon. anyway, let's discuss why peeps consider luclin the end of 'classic':

luclin pulled you out of norrath. AAs seem cool to those max-geared leveling lv 60s alts, but i wonder if you really want to bring back the grind-barrier that AAs presented for the regular pleb

lets take some pros/cons in this discussion and i'll start:

pros:
AA's are somewhat absolutely great
odus could use new content
every class becomes half-decent

cons:
player resistance to change
odus is perfect how it is
terrible new models
unbalanced new class
teleporting, nexus, bazaar
horses
vex'thal
unoptimized new content (irrelevant to top velious & some kunark gear)
destruction of lore (not that anyone cares)
beginning of theme-park mmo'ing
mud-flation
AA's grind

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

luclin pulled you out of norrath. AAs seem cool to those max-geared leveling lv 60s alts, but i wonder if you really want to bring back the grind-barrier that AAs presented for the regular pleb

lets take some pros/cons in this discussion and i'll start:

pros:
AA's are somewhat absolutely great
odus could use new content
every class becomes half-decent

cons:
player resistance to change - OK

odus is perfect how it is - ???

terrible new models - disabled by nilbog already, models stay the same

unbalanced new class - No camps that a Beastlord can do over a Necro, Mage, and Shaman. Shaman retain #1 solo farm class. How does that make beastlords good? They got shit on until 55-60 by my wizard, and then they got shit on a little less.

teleporting, nexus, bazaar -???

horses - bards are already in the game

vex'thal - nobody cares about VT, you just said raiders aren't part of the Luclin decision in your opening statement on AAs???

unoptimized new content (irrelevant to top velious & some kunark gear)

destruction of lore (not that anyone cares) - Lore is stronger than ever up until Planes of Power

beginning of theme-park mmo'ing - How is a full persistent world with 28 massive fully developed fully scaled zones the beginning of theme park MMOing? Sober up before posting.

mud-flation - You know nothing about end-game and you don't raid. velious is the mudflation, Luclin brought a stand-still to mudflation. Velious has +100 HP per item on a lot of stuff, Luclin has none of that. +25, +45 hp max for the most part.

AA's grind -EQ is a grind???

That is a lot of bogus cons listed with a few outright inaccuracies. Possible propaganda and slander hit-piece on Luclin here. Not sure if this is a complete shitpost yet.

Mostly shocked you said Luclin is mudflation when Luclin gear is worse than BIS Velious raw HP wise. Velious has +100 HP already. Not sure you have raided more than a few times.

I predict this thread might be a big hit with the Twitter crowd and the mostly inactive Danes that claim to play here.

[bubur]

-raiders are absolutely in the decision. red99 is a raider's haven server and luclin initation is a raider-discussion in general
-you're agreeing with me on unoptimized content + mudflation ie literally no reason to release the xpac

vexthal thtill thucks
bazaar thucks

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

-raiders are absolutely in the decision. red99 is a raider's haven server and luclin initation is a raider-discussion in general
-you're agreeing with me on unoptimized content + mudflation ie literally no reason to release the xpac

vexthal thtill thucks
bazaar thucks

How does bazaar suck on a low pop server though? Its mostly end-game players right?

So how do new guys get stuff without the bazaar? NTOV and <Friends> don't leave camps or raids to go sell 500pp items to new players.

That's the bogus cons I am talking about that you made up. You can talk about Bazaar harming blue, but to red it is a boon.

[bubur]

na. i see ur point and would invite you to present the pros of luclin

if you leave it to my interpretation...
pros:
new players get new shit in bazaar
nilbog makes all the bad luclin shit go away and we get only the cool stuff

cons:
???

[bubur]

u guys ever been to pipedream.com?

me neither cuz i made it up. might make some money tho among the 200 p99 players who have 1. estimate .com worth bout $100. wouldnt pay more but i duno how bad u rlly want mooncats

[Smedy]

Hello, i am smedy.

I'm a everquest expert and professor in elfsim science, here's my opinion

cons:
* even more unbalanced pvp
* instant kill abilities
* insane itemization gap
* safe zones
* horses that make everyone run at bard speed and you can only use them if you have new luclin models enabled
* garbage graphics
* more zones to a server which would thrive with less zones
* playable cats
* terrible lore
* safe zone with trading vendors instantly ruining the dynamic market making it like a diablo auction house which would boost rmt even more.

pros:
* continued donations from heartbrand

[LostCause]

don't matter how many zones there is ppl always flock to where those pixels are.

[Gardur]

luclin will never happen because it would require even more work than velious did.

Our devs are volunteers and they are not going to write an entire expansion for our little 200 man box.

[Samsung]

Originally Posted by Gardur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

luclin will never happen because it would require even more work than velious did.

Our devs are volunteers and they are not going to write an entire expansion for our little 200 man box.

They would do it for blue99 tho.