Miscellaneous: Phinigel Autropos should be mezable

Lasmori · #1 02-16-2014, 02:52 PM

The wiki states that he is unmezzable: http://wiki.project1999.com/Phinigel_Autropos
(I can't check to verify this bug on p99 itself as my bard is still 8. Forgive me if the wiki is just wrong.)

On live, I used to solo Phinigel on my bard quite a bit back in the day. (First for myself around lvl 54 then repeatedly for others after I had my epic.)

The tactic was as such:
1) Invis past most of the zone until you are in the upper chamber
2) Around the star with the seahorses, you lull several of them and then swim down star shaped hole being careful not to agro anything. (There where spots on the star that you could sneak down without agroing your lull targets or the unlulled stuff across from you. I forget if I tossed invis in for safety.)
3) Phinigel agros, you pull him down to the bottom of his chamber
4) Repeatedly mez while meleeing. This interrupts his casting. Hold the mez and heal as needed.

I had heard that it was possible for a bard to solo him... and after my guild wiped several times to the seahorses while trying to kill him for my epic update I figured I would just try soloing it. My first time killing him I didn't have an enduring breath item... so was twisting Tarew's Aquatic Ayre, Song of Twilight, and I believe a haste song. When I got low on health I would would stop attacking, keep him mezzed, and twist in some healing songs... while nervous as hell and accidentally forgetting to turn off attack :P.

I killed him this way repeatedly to help many mages and wizards get their epic updates over the years. (Kill him, lull the guardians, get the person down to loot... they would occasionally agro stuff and die... was fun.)

He was reasonably easy if you can get at him without the adds.

Lasmori · #2 02-16-2014, 03:08 PM

I think eqdiva may have had the tactic on their forum for the epic. I've been trying to poke around at it via archive.org, but not sure if I can get at older posts. (archive.org didn't start picking up eqdiva until 2004 and the pagination was done in javascript by the looks of it, so that's not working.)

https://web.archive.org/web/20040819...m/eq/epic.aspx

Lasmori · #3 02-16-2014, 03:15 PM

This post talks about "mez tanking" him. It's from 2004 and not "classic", though I don't think Phinigel changed since then.
https://web.archive.org/web/20041106...x?PostID=37453

Lasmori · #4 02-16-2014, 03:18 PM

Looked through the EQ patch notes on allakhazam up through til dec 2004 and didn't see anything specific to Phin.

(I used this, click the dates for the actual patches)
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches.html

**Haynar** · #5 02-16-2014, 04:10 PM

So you want us to make changes so you can solo phinny?

All over that .....

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Daldaen · #6 02-16-2014, 04:20 PM

I think they want you to make changes, because classic.

Lasmori · #7 02-16-2014, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you want us to make changes so you can solo phinny?

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Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think they want you to make changes, because classic.

Isn't something *not* working as it did in classic considered a bug?

My bard is 8... I am not going to attempt soloing him any time in the near future. Would I want to try at some point? Certainly! It's something I feel nostalgic about doing from "back in the day". Kinda the point of the server no? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One person's word doesn't mean much, so I even posted a reference from 2004 (see above) mentioning the use of mez as part of the bard strategy. (I know 2004 isn't "classic", but forum references from kunark/velious are hard to come by.)

Lasmori · #8 02-16-2014, 04:54 PM

Comments from the 2004 post quoted here for your pleasure:

https://web.archive.org/web/20041106...x?PostID=37453

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Phinni will be tough to get single but if you get him then you can mez tank him.

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Phinny should be easy to single. My MO is to find a seahorse that doesn't see invis, and swim down past him to the bottom of Phinny's "pit". You need to hug the wall closely to do this. Once you're all the way at the bottom, swim up a notch and Phinny should be targetable. Tag with OOS/HOS and pull Phinny to the bottom. Never had an add this way, if you're nervous you can lull the seahorse on the side you're on I guess. Once Phinny's on the bottom with you it's just a matter of tanking him down and mez-healing as needed. You might want to get level 64 and Requiem of Time first.

As a side note, it can be kinda humbling to see how much more easily a mage can solo this mob than a bard can... lol.

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For Phinigel, I mez-tanked him. I fought him in his cave, but a lot of people pull him to the ledge after lulling the seahorses. In retrospect, I should have done that because fighting in the water is a pain.

Velerin · #9 02-16-2014, 07:15 PM

On a side note, on live the seahorses only see invis ~25% of the time. On here I've never seen them not see invis.

Lasmori · #10 02-16-2014, 08:32 PM

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On a side note, on live the seahorses only see invis ~25% of the time. On here I've never seen them not see invis.

Ah that's right! A 25% chance or so to spawn being able to see invis. So you would check and see which ones didn't see invis, lull the closest see-invis-ers... and then drop down where the guy(s) who couldn't was.

I loved that... was so interesting to figure out how to get down there without dying [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]